Pac or Spence: Who dodged a bullet?

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  • strykr619
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    #51
    They most likely knew of the injury and were going to try and mask it then they saw some old tape from the Margarito fight and an off the cuff comment about his face looking like Margs made him rethink his health. If NSAC says its an eye injury it is what it is .

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    • Ryannn
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      #52
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      I don’t think you’re too far off.

      I think Spence had to get checked after getting roughed up in sparring. I figure the day after that they knew about his eye- which would explain why Ugas was sparring a southpaw like 3 or so days ago.

      I also think Manny wants the payday for the political campaigns. Those are expensive and you can’t just get the money back.

      I also think with Haymon near the end of his Fox deal, he couldn’t risk not having a fight, especially with the plant debacle.

      My guess is Manny got a nice bump in guarantee to offset the ppv upside loss.

      Also the injury announced the day after the pbc countdown for Spence / Manny on Fox debuted on TV.

      what I’m not sure about is if this is Manny’s last pbc fight or he owes 1 more. If it’s his last then expect some judging shenanigans.
      !!
      Probably as Tua said, they knew about the "injury" way before they made the announcement.

      Tried to push through, but Spence didn't look too good in training so they pulled the plug. Ugas was always their plan B.

      They promised Spence the Ugas-Manny winner so now they have 2 big ww fights instead of 1.

      Spence gets a breather, Ugas gets a career defining fight, Manny still gets paid, PBC gets 2 big fights no matter what

      Everybody wins. Except the fans.

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #53
        Originally posted by Roadblock

        Lets say its legit and Errol had to withdraw I think it was easy to get Ugas, on the same card training for a fight same promotor, it is the obvious choice, its easy to come up with a conspiracy theory to anything, should they have canceled the whole show, pay TC 20ml to take it on a weeks notice, sometimes things just fall a certain way, if its BS it will come out but the sealer for me is it was the Nevada Commissions own Doctors that said no fight.
        There's no way they can get tc in a pbc event.

        But if they pulled out early enough, maybe Manny does tc in September or October.

        My conspiracy isn't on errol not being hurt.

        My theory is they pulled the plug too late for Manny to pull out.

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        • Spoon23
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          #54
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

          He might be slow but he's big and strong.

          Remember against big and strong guys, pac needs them to exchange and slug and come forward to beat them down.

          If they play defensive, pac is too small to break them down and force a fight.

          Look at clottey, broner, Mosley when he started moonwalking, etc.

          When they get defensive, pac can't break them down.

          The big, strong guys that pac beat down are the guys coming at him. Guys who punch so pac can find openings.

          Marg, cotto, Hatton, delahoya, etc.
          Just saw the mits workout of both men.

          Pac's punches sounds like an AK-47

          While Ugas sounds like a whimper.

          There's levels to this game..

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            #55
            Originally posted by Spoon23

            Just saw the mits workout of both men.

            Pac's punches sounds like an AK-47

            While Ugas sounds like a whimper.

            There's levels to this game..
            there are levels

            But sometimes lower levels can be a bad matchup

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            • KillaMane26
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              #56
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Spence lost the biggest payday of his career in the highest profile fight he’s ever been in. If Manny loses to Ugas he never gets it back.

              why Manny **** riders think that is him not being sure of himself is crazy.
              This has to be one of the most annoying days of boxing I've seen

              You never see MMA guys acting like this. Shyt is weird.

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              • KillaMane26
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                #57
                Originally posted by Spoon23

                Just saw the mits workout of both men.

                Pac's punches sounds like an AK-47

                While Ugas sounds like a whimper.

                There's levels to this game..
                Ugas is the last person any of these guys would want to face. High risk low reward all day

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26

                  Ugas is the last person any of these guys would want to face. High risk low reward all day
                  If pac lost to spence

                  Doesn't hurt his legacy at all

                  All reward, no risk


                  Pac win over ugas adds nothing

                  Pac loss probably ends his prize fighter career

                  He's too old to build himself back up

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

                    If pac lost to spence

                    Doesn't hurt his legacy at all

                    All reward, no risk


                    Pac win over ugas adds nothing

                    Pac loss probably ends his prize fighter career

                    He's too old to build himself back up
                    Exactly why it makes no sense on PBC trying to squeeze out two fights from Manny instead of Spence fighting him now.

                    Spence losing to PAC still benefits him ... Career payday, raises his popularity. So why on earth would he pull out unless it's a good reason

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by KillaMane26

                      Exactly why it makes no sense on PBC trying to squeeze out two fights from Manny instead of Spence fighting him now.

                      Spence losing to PAC still benefits him ... Career payday, raises his popularity. So why on earth would he pull out unless it's a good reason
                      You know how that sparring video came out and spence didn't look good?

                      Just guessing. Throwing it out there.

                      Say he finds out he has a tear in his retina.

                      They said they went to 3 doctors in the end.

                      Say 1st doctor informs him of the tear.

                      Theyre still trying to go ahead with the fight and seek the 2nd and 3rd opinion.

                      In the meantime, he goes ahead and spars.

                      That eye thing on his mind. Thinking about that eye. Worried about that eye.

                      Maybe thats why he performed so badly in that sparring.

                      Just throwing it out there.

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