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  • IceTrayDaGang
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    I think that is the only reason he is still going to fight. Commercials, directors, polling, etc etc. is f-cking expensive.

    Manny has plenty of money but those are expensive expenses you can’t just get back. And we did just get off of covid.

    Its like Floyd/Paul. Floyd has plenty of money but running a promotional company the right way is expensive. You need to keep generating resources.
    once again with the BS!!! like mention already, if it's just for money then he could just fight anyone!! lesser comp!! if it's all about money then he would have made a big deal about this and demand to get pay more or he wont fight, both company lose money but who's gonna hurt more? PBC not pac! if it's all about the money.

    yes, a fighter wants to get paid, but its not all about the money here with pac.. he also wants to add more to his legacy while getting paid!!

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      #22
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      I think that is the only reason he is still going to fight. Commercials, directors, polling, etc etc. is f-cking expensive.

      Manny has plenty of money but those are expensive expenses you can’t just get back. And we did just get off of covid.

      Its like Floyd/Paul. Floyd has plenty of money but running a promotional company the right way is expensive. You need to keep generating resources.
      Being a degenerate gambler is also expensive

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        #23
        Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

        once again with the BS!!! like mention already, if it's just for money then he could just fight anyone!! lesser comp!! if it's all about money then he would have made a big deal about this and demand to get pay more or he wont fight, both company lose money but who's gonna hurt more? PBC not pac! if it's all about the money.

        yes, a fighter wants to get paid, but its not all about the money here with pac.. he also wants to add more to his legacy while getting paid!!
        I see you avoided my other post where I asked did Manny get stitches or not take the $40 mil because he lacked confidence. Don’t forget to respond to that.

        What you posted makes no sense. If there is no fight, both pbc and Manny lose money. Manny decided to fight Ugas, which isn’t a legacy fight.

        Why you can’t admit he needs the money for his and jinkee’s political campaigns is bizarre. It’s not a diss but you seem to take it that way.

        Yes ice, that is what he says on the TV interviews. That is his carefully crafted image. I don’t believe that anymore than I believe Floyd never trained or studied and opponent, or anymore than I believed a rapper that says he never wrote anything down.

        At the end of the day campaigns are expensive and Boxing is Manny’s most lucrative income. Jinkee, to my knowledge, has no income stream that can generate the type of money needed to run a successful campaign.

        so it makes financial sense for him to fight on August 21 to at least get the guarantee and any ppv revenue the fight generates.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-11-2021, 07:10 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          I think that is the only reason he is still going to fight. Commercials, directors, polling, etc etc. is f-cking expensive.

          Manny has plenty of money but those are expensive expenses you can’t just get back. And we did just get off of covid.

          Its like Floyd/Paul. Floyd has plenty of money but running a promotional company the right way is expensive. You need to keep generating resources.
          I agree both have to prolong their careers for various reasons. Pac is running for President of the Philippines so he needs campaign financing in order to run a successful campaign and Floyd continues to fight in order to maintain his lavish lifestyle.

          Most of Floyd's money is tied up in investments. He is running out of liquid assets because he is no longer an active fighter; Where he was making close to $100M a year. He is not making anywhere near that amount of money promoting fighters on a yearly basis.
          Last edited by champion4ever; 08-11-2021, 07:13 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by creekrat77

            Being a degenerate gambler is also expensive
            Well I don’t know that Manny has lost any money on ********. If you mean Floyd, yes that is very possible given his love of ********.

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              #26
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              I see you avoided my other post where I asked did Manny get stitches or not take the $40 mil because he lacked confidence. Don’t forget to respond to that.

              What you posted makes no sense. If there is no fight, both pbc and Manny lose money. Manny decided to fight Ugas, which isn’t a legacy fight.

              Why you can’t admit he needs the money for his and jinkee’s political campaigns is bizarre. It’s not a diss but you seem to take it that way.

              Yes ice, that is what he says on the TV interviews. That is his carefully crafted image. I don’t believe that anymore than I believe Floyd never trained or studied and opponent, or anymore than I believed a rapper that says he never wrote anything down.

              At the end of the day campaigns are expensive and Boxing is Manny’s most lucrative income. Jinkee, to my knowledge, has no income stream that can generate the type of money needed to run a successful campaign.

              so it makes financial sense for him to fight on August 21 to at least get the guarantee and any ppv revenue the fight generates.
              i didnt avoid nothing... didnt even know you quoted me???

              take what $40 mil??? are you talking about floyd's flat fee? if yes, then yo grandma must have dropped you on your head as a baby!!!

              and dont try to group pac with floyd.... floyd has to fight because he buys a new car every month!! pac dont live that lifestyle... pac lives in a 3rd world country...

              dunn is so mad about this, bringing in jinkeee lmao!!! didnt floyd just gave $5mil to his stripper gf??? that's why floyd has to fight! dont get it twisted.

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                #27
                Originally posted by champion4ever

                I agree both have to prolong their careers for various reasons. Pac is running for President of the Philippines so he needs campaign financing in order to run a successful campaign and Floyd continues to fight in order to maintain his lavish lifestyle.

                Most of Floyd's money is tied up in investments. He is running out of liquid/cash assets because he is no longer an active fighter; Where he was making close to $100M a year. He is not making anywhere near that amount of money promoting fighters on a yearly basis.
                C'mon man, if it was about the money he'd fight Jake Paul or McGregor. Clearly picking one of if not THE top welterweight at 42, or however old he is, is about legacy. This was about taking on objectively the toughest opponent he could face, before hanging them up and running against Dutuerte. Dutuerte won't stand up to China. Pacquiao says he will but he needs that Spence victory to better sell it.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

                  i didnt avoid nothing... didnt even know you quoted me???

                  take what $40 mil??? are you talking about floyd's flat fee? if yes, then yo grandma must have dropped you on your head as a baby!!!

                  and dont try to group pac with floyd.... floyd has to fight because he buys a new car every month!! pac dont live that lifestyle... pac lives in a 3rd world country...

                  dunn is so mad about this, bringing in jinkeee lmao!!! didnt floyd just gave $5mil to his stripper gf??? that's why floyd has to fight! dont get it twisted.
                  Why am I mad? I didn’t claim Manny needed money for his lifestyle. I even point out he has money.

                  I posted only about his campaign expenses. Since you can’t get around that reality, you’re now talking about being mad and stuff that has nothing to do with this. I brought up Jinkee because Manny funds her campaign.

                  You somehow took what I posted as some kind of diss. Which is ****** and immature.

                  You spent weeks talking about Manny only signed to fight Spence for legacy. Spence is out and Manny still fights a dude that you and other Manny **** riders say had no impact on his legacy.

                  so why take a fight, against a dude that presumably isn’t being drug tested, on 2 weeks notice if money isn’t a huge factor?

                  Here is a thought- maybe you’re just wrong.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by creekrat77

                    C'mon man, if it was about the money he'd fight Jake Paul or McGregor. Clearly picking one of if not THE top welterweight at 42, or however old he is, is about legacy. This was about taking on objectively the toughest opponent he could face, before hanging them up and running against Dutuerte. Dutuerte won't stand up to China. Pacquiao says he will but he needs that Spence victory to better sell it.
                    He planned to fight Conor but it fell through because Conor lost.

                    Spence is a legacy fight. It’s also the most lucrative ww fight out there, right?

                    So why no one doubts part of this was legacy, Manny fans look ****** dismissing the financial aspect of the fight.

                    Now that Spence is out and Manny is no longer fighting a legacy defining fight, it’s more than clear that finances are a major factor.

                    Why do you guys think anyone that points this out is dissing Manny?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      He planned to fight Conor but it fell through because Conor lost.

                      Spence is a legacy fight. It’s also the most lucrative ww fight out there, right?

                      So why no one doubts part of this was legacy, Manny fans look ****** dismissing the financial aspect of the fight.

                      Now that Spence is out and Manny is no longer fighting a legacy defining fight, it’s more than clear that finances are a major factor.

                      Why do you guys think anyone that points this out is dissing Manny?
                      What is he gonna do? He trained to fight Spence, he pulled out. Either way he's taken time out his political career to train and fight on this date so he's seemingly going through with it. How much is he getting for fighting Spence/Ugas?

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