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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    I really don't think you understand how the world works. I know you've read my posts so you know what I think of what you just said. But duran would need to be 45 years old and beating SRL for it to be as good as pac win over spence.
    I don’t base the quality just on age of the boxers. Context is important.

    Duran came up from 135 and beat SRL, who was undefeated and the best in the world in a 15 rd fight.

    SRL beat Hearns when he was undefeated and was a legitimate, dominant champion.

    I think if Manny wins against Spence, given he is post the car accident, would make this a bit below those wins.

    You’re a pole smoker who has no credibility or integrity. You’re not objective. You’re mad because I posted that if Manny wins imo it would be the 3rd best ww in 40 years. Really?

    Fuck off with this obsessive level of **** slurping.

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    • Bronx2245
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      #12
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      True, but am I wrong in thinking bh took up boxing late as a pro as he was in jail or something? Plus bigger guys reach their primes later.
      I was responding to Gibbons' statement that "Outside of Heavyweights..." B-Hop took titles from folks at a much later age than 42. He is correct, that if Pacquiao wins, it would be the best win @ WW. B-Hop's first pro fight was at age 23, and he lost. Winning a title at 48 is outstanding regardless of when he started! Salute to B-Hop!

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      • hugh grant
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        #13
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        I don’t base the quality just on age of the boxers. Context is important.

        g.[/B]
        The irony of this comment. If you took your own advice you'd make sense.
        Great lightweights beat great WW when in primes. What PAC is doing isn't done. The record books will prove it. If PAC beats Spence's he's writing his own script, rewriting the record books.
        You are essentially saying Duran beating SRL is better than PACs win because SRL is greater than Spence? That's your version of context is it?

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #14
          Crawford is rated above Spence by most. Don't see how it can be the greatest when he's not even fighting the #1 WW.

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          • Bronx2245
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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            I don’t base the quality just on age of the boxers. Context is important.

            Duran came up from 135 and beat SRL, who was undefeated and the best in the world in a 15 rd fight.

            SRL beat Hearns when he was undefeated and was a legitimate, dominant champion.

            I think if Manny wins against Spence, given he is post the car accident, would make this a bit below those wins.

            You’re a pole smoker who has no credibility or integrity. You’re not objective. You’re mad because I posted that if Manny wins imo it would be the 3rd best ww in 40 years. Really?

            Fuck off with this obsessive level of **** slurping.
            Context is important. Like B-Hop accepting a catch-weight fight, and beating ODLH by TKO, at age 36, is more impressive than his win over Cloud, at age 48. I don't think the car accident is relevant. If Manny had fought him immediately after, then it would be, but Spence already fought, and won, since then.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              Context is important. Like B-Hop accepting a catch-weight fight, and beating ODLH by TKO, at age 36, is more impressive than his win over Cloud, at age 48. I don't think the car accident is relevant. If Manny had fought him immediately after, then it would be, but Spence already fought, and won, since then.
              I personally don’t think those would better because, having been at the Bhop/fishnets fight, most of the objective fans felt Bhop was better and was going to win, especially since most thought Sturm beat dela 8 ball.

              Manny is a huge underdog so a win imo would surpass those Bhop wins.

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              • Bronx2245
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                #17
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Crawford is rated above Spence by most. Don't see how it can be the greatest when he's not even fighting the #1 WW.
                Crawford's resume @ 147 eliminates him from being considered the #1 WW. If we only use the "eye-test," which people must be using, since Crawford's opponents at 147 are far inferior to both Spence and Pacquiao's opponents in the division, then I would say "Boots" Ennis is on the same level as Spence, Pacquiao, and Crawford.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  The irony of this comment. If you took your own advice you'd make sense.
                  Great lightweights beat great WW when in primes. What PAC is doing isn't done. The record books will prove it. If PAC beats Spence's he's writing his own script, rewriting the record books.
                  You are essentially saying Duran beating SRL is better than PACs win because SRL is greater than Spence? That's your version of context is it?
                  You have no valid point to make. You’re simply a **** slurper with no knowledge of the history of the sport outside of Manny.

                  If Manny wins, I’m putting it as the 3rd best ww win in over 40 years and you’re complaining I don’t have it as #1?

                  Shut the fuck up. You’re a pathetic cum gurgling fuckboy for this.
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-08-2021, 09:46 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I don’t think it would be better than Duran over SRL and SRL over Hearns, but other than them I can’t think of a ww win since 1980 that would be better than Manny beating Spence.
                    If manny beat 38 year old Floyd that would be better. 2015 Floyd is much better that 2021 Spence

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      Crawford's resume @ 147 eliminates him from being considered the #1 WW. If we only use the "eye-test," which people must be using, since Crawford's opponents at 147 are far inferior to both Spence and Pacquiao's opponents in the division, then I would say "Boots" Ennis is on the same level as Spence, Pacquiao, and Crawford.
                      That's your opinion. The majority disagree with you. Sorry.

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