How Bad did Marvis Fraiser Suck?!

[Kimmy]

Well, marvis did beat Bonecrusher Smith back before Smith became world champ so i think he had some skill. The Holmes fight should have never been sanctioned, Marvis had only 10 fights on his record and wasn`t anything special to warrent a fight with Holmes. i think daddy Joe feed him to the dogs early as it discourage marvis if he wasn`t good enough!

[cmason]

Joe Frazier was a great fighter and champion.

It sickened me when I read about his dealings with Muhammed Ali. Ali, after his ban from boxing....had nowhere to go, and was low on money. Frazier lent him 1 mil and shortly after that..........Ali was badmouthing him:

IE:

I call Joe "the mummy". because he is too slow. Here come the left.......RRRAAAAARRR....here come the right.....RRRRAAAR. hes too slow man....im pretty....

I understand he was promoting the fight, but publicly humiliating someone like that..........on top of calling him uncle tom.....makes me think of who I would have been reuting for.

the mummy jibe was against george forman before the zaire fight. do your reserch.

[Guest]

the mummy jibe was against george forman before the zaire fight. do your reserch.

I already told him that. No need to be rude about it.

[Dynamite76]

Marvis was a good fighter,but personally, I always felt the cruiserweights was the best place for him.It's one thing to beat a Broad or Smith, but I can't imagine him beating someone like a Tubbs, Page, or Dokes.

[Kimmy]

I fully agree Dynamite! Marvis was a small heavyweight, very skinny, perfect build for crusier or even lightheavy. i think he was made into a heavyweight because of who his father was and they knew they could market him in the heavyweight division. But, alas, he wsn`t big enough to take it and wsn`t good enough to avoid it!

[stix]

I've only seen one of Marvis Frazier's fights, and it was the Tyson fight. Marvis had about a snowball's chance in hell of beating Tyson. He could of got hurt real bad. Old poppa Joe musta been a real hard case.

[Guest]

did you see Joe's face when Marvis was about to start the bout with Holmes? He looked like he wanted to do it for him.

[cmason]

I already told him that. No need to be rude about it.

sorry. did'nt mean to sound rude about it, meant as a joke.

[marvdave]

Marvis was a good fighter,but personally, I always felt the cruiserweights was the best place for him.It's one thing to beat a Broad or Smith, but I can't imagine him beating someone like a Tubbs, Page, or Dokes.

bingo, but the cruisers had no money value for him. Papa Joe wanted to make him some money becuase he was obviously undersized to compete at a high level against heavys. Marvis was a very solid boxer, but had very little pop. He out boxed the Bonecrusher and Broad. Very nice wins for him. If I'm not mistaken, he also decisioned Joe Bugner? With his skills he could out box the big slow guys, but never would he ever been able to beat the skilled heavys.

I think his biggest accomplishment was being able to stay focused and outbox Broad without being distracted by James' "man-boobs".

[Guest]

sorry. did'nt mean to sound rude about it, meant as a joke.

That's alright, man, sorry if I was a bit hard too - it's just there's a lot of trash talking around here and that poor guy's been picked on enough. It's hard to tell reading black and white text sometimes...