Comments Thread For: Hearn: Canelo-Golovkin III Not Possible For September 18; GGG Focused On Murata Fight

[Bundt]

Conspiracy time:

Canelo is pro-lockdown. He really wants a lockdown so he made these bombastic demands knowing it wouldn’t be accepted. We have rights! We don’t want vaccines or lockdowns.

[NachoMan]

Conspiracy time:

Canelo is pro-lockdown. He really wants a lockdown so he made these bombastic demands knowing it wouldn’t be accepted. We have rights! We don’t want vaccines or lockdowns.

Man, you should meet Zaroku.

[Verus]

He just finished a 3 fight deal with Hearn. To say he doesn't want to be tied up is kinda dumb. Canelo messed everything up for himself. He was going to get paid, 40 mil, PPV percentage, part of the revenue, way more than he would make with DAZN. Big reason why he chose that route instead of making the fight on DAZN. PBC did the right thing, why would they guarantee him 40 mil to fight a late replacement if Plant gets covid or hurt

No Canelo did not sign a 3 fight deal with Hearn. They were 3 individual and separate contracts. That is a big difference that entails more risk and possibly a bigger reward for Canelo. I can't, nor did I say, I fault PBC for not accepting the same financial liability if Caleb could not fight and they had to come up with a substitute. Without having access to the written proposed contracts of all parties, no one can second guess the decisions of any of those involved. In my view, It makes little sense to offer Canelo $40 million for one fight, but it does make good sense to offer him 40 million for the first of a 3 or 4 fight deal. The big loser here is neither Canelo nor Haymon. Canelo will make buckets of money regardless of who he fights. Also not losing money are all Canelo haters who make a good living posting videos on YouTube slamming him. Hating Canelo is a lucrative cottage industry. The loser here is Caleb Plant who will likely lose his title in short order, and for a lot less money, to either Charlo or Benavidez.

[Verus]

Conspiracy time:

Canelo is pro-lockdown. He really wants a lockdown so he made these bombastic demands knowing it wouldn’t be accepted. We have rights! We don’t want vaccines or lockdowns.

No Canelo is anti-lock down. It is Bill Gates and George Soros who want vaccines, lockdowns, and to scuttle the Canelo fight.

[Oldskoolg]

PBC Balked At Paying Canelo $40M For Replacement Opponent On Sept.18 If Plant Unable To Fight
Boxing News 24
By Dan Ambrose
August 1, 2021

Canelo Alvarez is stuck without an opponent for his September 18th fight after his negotiations with IBF super 168-lb champion Caleb Plant fizzled over the $40 million guarantee the Mexican star wanted in case ‘Sweethands’ pulled out of the fight due to injury/illness.

Mike Coppinger reporting that Premier Boxing Champions [PBC] wouldn’t agree to the $40M guarantee that Canelo wanted, which involved him getting that amount even if Plant (21-0, 12 KOs) pulled out of the fight due to injury or illness.

It’s understandable why PBC wouldn’t agree to pay Canelo $40 million if he winds up facing a replacement. However, from Canelo’s standpoint, he wasn’t going to take the chance of Plant needing to pull out of the fight due to injury.

The $40 million that Canelo was still insisting on getting in the event of a replacement opponent was clearly a way for him to make sure that he would get top dollar if Plant couldn’t fight. It makes sense for Canelo.

I guess you could call it insurance for Canelo. If he ends up fighting a PBC replacement opponent, he will get the same $40M.

Plant obviously didn’t like the sound of Canelo’s request, but the Mexican star didn’t want to take any chances.

With Plant’s hand injury problems, there’s no telling whether he could make it through training camp without needing to postpone. If Plant pulled out of the fight, Canelo would be stuck needing to fight a replacement. Would that replacement come from PBC? If so, Canelo would essentially be fighting a two-fight deal because he would still wind up facing Plant later.

If Canelo’s fight is on PBC against one of their fighters like David Benavidez, for example, he would still need to face Plant later for him to capture his belt. So instead of it being one fight, Canelo would potentially be fighting twice on PBC.

It would be a great deal for PBC because they get Canelo for two fights instead of the original one, and who knows how much his payday would be for the replacement. It’s unlikely that Canelo would have gotten anywhere near the $40 million that he’d negotiated for the Plant fight.

The loser in all this is Plant, who would have gotten a career-high payday of $10 million. Even if Plant lost the fight, his value would have increased as long as he put in a good showing.

It will hurt Plant to lose out on that payday, especially if Canelo never attempts to revisit the fight. With Canelo, he might choose to ignore Plant after this episode and move on with his career. Indeed, it would be surprising if Canelo chooses to set up a fight with Plant again.

Plant will eventually lose his title once the International Boxing Federation orders him to defend against David Benavidez or if he faces Jermall Charlo. Those are Plant’s best chances for a big payday, but he won’t get the same kind of money fighting them as he would have against Canelo.

Thanks for posting this. It kills all the propaganda that’s pushed on the boxing “fan” blogosphere

[Jab jab boom]

PBC Balked At Paying Canelo $40M For Replacement Opponent On Sept.18 If Plant Unable To Fight
Boxing News 24
By Dan Ambrose
August 1, 2021

Canelo Alvarez is stuck without an opponent for his September 18th fight after his negotiations with IBF super 168-lb champion Caleb Plant fizzled over the $40 million guarantee the Mexican star wanted in case ‘Sweethands’ pulled out of the fight due to injury/illness.

Mike Coppinger reporting that Premier Boxing Champions [PBC] wouldn’t agree to the $40M guarantee that Canelo wanted, which involved him getting that amount even if Plant (21-0, 12 KOs) pulled out of the fight due to injury or illness.

It’s understandable why PBC wouldn’t agree to pay Canelo $40 million if he winds up facing a replacement. However, from Canelo’s standpoint, he wasn’t going to take the chance of Plant needing to pull out of the fight due to injury.

The $40 million that Canelo was still insisting on getting in the event of a replacement opponent was clearly a way for him to make sure that he would get top dollar if Plant couldn’t fight. It makes sense for Canelo.

I guess you could call it insurance for Canelo. If he ends up fighting a PBC replacement opponent, he will get the same $40M.

Plant obviously didn’t like the sound of Canelo’s request, but the Mexican star didn’t want to take any chances.

With Plant’s hand injury problems, there’s no telling whether he could make it through training camp without needing to postpone. If Plant pulled out of the fight, Canelo would be stuck needing to fight a replacement. Would that replacement come from PBC? If so, Canelo would essentially be fighting a two-fight deal because he would still wind up facing Plant later.

If Canelo’s fight is on PBC against one of their fighters like David Benavidez, for example, he would still need to face Plant later for him to capture his belt. So instead of it being one fight, Canelo would potentially be fighting twice on PBC.

It would be a great deal for PBC because they get Canelo for two fights instead of the original one, and who knows how much his payday would be for the replacement. It’s unlikely that Canelo would have gotten anywhere near the $40 million that he’d negotiated for the Plant fight.

The loser in all this is Plant, who would have gotten a career-high payday of $10 million. Even if Plant lost the fight, his value would have increased as long as he put in a good showing.

It will hurt Plant to lose out on that payday, especially if Canelo never attempts to revisit the fight. With Canelo, he might choose to ignore Plant after this episode and move on with his career. Indeed, it would be surprising if Canelo chooses to set up a fight with Plant again.

Plant will eventually lose his title once the International Boxing Federation orders him to defend against David Benavidez or if he faces Jermall Charlo. Those are Plant’s best chances for a big payday, but he won’t get the same kind of money fighting them as he would have against Canelo.

canelo is out of his kind thinking he should get 40 mil for a replacement. Dazn was losing money paying him the 35 mil guarantee against actual names, now he wants 40 mil to fight a Rocky Fielding type of opponent? This is overboard Diva behavior even for him.

[icha]

canelo is out of his kind thinking he should get 40 mil for a replacement. Dazn was losing money paying him the 35 mil guarantee against actual names, now he wants 40 mil to fight a Rocky Fielding type of opponent? This is overboard Diva behavior even for him.

yep, let plant fake an injury or get covid so that uncle al can have canelo fight on a mexican date for less money and then get canelo fight for a second date vs plant, easy way to get a multi fight deal for pbc... canelo is asking for a one fight guaranteed purse regardless of who haymon decides to put in front of him on a mexican date... anyways if plant fails to fight or gets scared to fight canelo next it wont be canelos fault, not like canelo is looking to fight a replacement without undisputed chances...

[filup79]

No Canelo did not sign a 3 fight deal with Hearn. They were 3 individual and separate contracts. That is a big difference that entails more risk and possibly a bigger reward for Canelo. I can't, nor did I say, I fault PBC for not accepting the same financial liability if Caleb could not fight and they had to come up with a substitute. Without having access to the written proposed contracts of all parties, no one can second guess the decisions of any of those involved. In my view, It makes little sense to offer Canelo $40 million for one fight, but it does make good sense to offer him 40 million for the first of a 3 or 4 fight deal. The big loser here is neither Canelo nor Haymon. Canelo will make buckets of money regardless of who he fights. Also not losing money are all Canelo haters who make a good living posting videos on YouTube slamming him. Hating Canelo is a lucrative cottage industry. The loser here is Caleb Plant who will likely lose his title in short order, and for a lot less money, to either Charlo or Benavidez.

It was actually a 2 fight deal. But I guarantee that the replacement would have to be chosen by Canelo and not PBC. Haymon could have easily said Charlo or Benavidez would be the replacement fighters on stand by if Plant was sick or injured and Canelo would have not agreed to that.

[Jab jab boom]

yep, let plant fake an injury or get covid so that uncle al can have canelo fight on a mexican date for less money and then get canelo fight for a second date vs plant, easy way to get a multi fight deal for pbc... canelo is asking for a one fight guaranteed purse regardless of who haymon decides to put in front of him on a mexican date... anyways if plant fails to fight or gets scared to fight canelo next it wont be canelos fault, not like canelo is looking to fight a replacement without undisputed chances...

Assuming a pro boxer is going to pass up a pay day out of fear of canelo is a joke. You guys act like canelo is a prime mike Tyson and is destroying lives in the ring. He has a 64% ko percentage, you really think guys are shaking in their shoes to face him? If this was canelos stance, he should’ve insisted to Golden boy that they still pay ggg his full purse in 2018 to fight Vanes after their fight got cancelled because Canelo got caught cheating. Either way, 40 mil isn’t anywhere near a reasonable request for the revenue he generates.

[icha]

Assuming a pro boxer is going to pass up a pay day out of fear of canelo is a joke. You guys act like canelo is a prime mike Tyson and is destroying lives in the ring. He has a 64% ko percentage, you really think guys are shaking in their shoes to face him? If this was canelos stance, he should’ve insisted to Golden boy that they still pay ggg his full purse in 2018 to fight Vanes after their fight got cancelled because Canelo got caught cheating. Either way, 40 mil isn’t anywhere near a reasonable request for the revenue he generates.

if haymon think 40mill is too much then he wouldnt be making that offer, again canelo is looking for a one fight purse guarantee, something tom loeffler was too ****** to envision on gggs case... your fighter fails you pay...