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  • #31
    Originally posted by lion33lit View Post
    You know what, let me not forget Floyd Mayweather, Joe Calzaghe and I’m sure other elite fighters when it comes to this endurance thing, Guys like these have had some incredible moments of endurance that were absolutely amazing!!…How did they keep going when you thought they’d slow down?!?!

    But I can’t exclude guys like Spence & Manny either - who seem to be very competent in that area - above average combatants that better not underestimate each other….Roach better not give Manny false assurance in that area.

    Spence went through a crazy monster car crash that Manny shouldn’t be able to compare to. I think, endurance issues for Spence can only be a problem if Spence takes this fight waaaay too seriously.
    You know what impressive about Floyd endurance

    he had a titanium body

    don’t remember him being hurt bad from a body shot. And he took a couple good body shots in his career
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    • #32
      Originally posted by HOF Hater View Post

      Spence gassed in Danny fight which is why he was getting tagged. Maybe pre-accident Spence but Spence has to cut so much weight that it affects him.
      Yeah he took two rounds off in the Danny fight, but that's only because he wasn't 100 percent, and one fight, coming off a long lay off and an accident isn't enough to say someone gasses in the later rounds.

      Prime Spence actually gets stronger and stronger in the latter rounds just look what happened to Mikey, Porter, and Brook in the latter rounds?

      Freddie is delusional.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
        I told you guys Spence gets tired. I noticed it in the Mikey fight. He lost tons of steam off his punches and was gassed in a fight he didn't even get hit in.

        He was noticeably tired in that fight as well as the Danny fight. Big time.
        Conveniently ignore the Porter and Brook fights where he dropped the former and stopped the latter.

        Also conceniently forget that he threw more punches from 9-12 rounds in the Mikey fight than he did the first eight rounds and also threw 1200 punches in that fight.

        But he gasses though, smh.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Doubledagger View Post

          Conveniently ignore the Porter and Brook fights where he dropped the former and stopped the latter.

          Also conceniently forget that he threw more punches from 9-12 rounds in the Mikey fight than he did the first eight rounds and also threw 1200 punches in that fight.

          But he gasses though, smh.
          I don't get why you're being so defensive. I like Errol. I'm betting on him to stop Pacquiao with REAL MONEY. I'm just pointing out that he was noticeably tired in the Mikey fight. His punches lost steam. He also tired in the Danny fight.

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          • #35
            Why the heck would he reveal their strategy publicly?
            it's obviously a ploy.
            Pac ain't winning by KO.

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            • #36
              Roach is reaching with this one. I've only seen Spence get stronger in the later rounds EVERY time he's fought except for fight with DG. which he admitted and is understandable giving the circumstances.

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              • #37
                Paradigm Sports Management seeks injunction to stop Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence

                Might another big fight be on the verge of collapse? After filing a lawsuit against Manny Pacquiao last month, Paradigm Sports Management has filed a motion with California court system looking for an injunction that would prevent Manny Pacquiao from taking on unified welterweight titleholder Errol Spence next month, as reported by WBN.

                In June the company filed a lawsuit alleging that it signed Pacquiao to a management agreement back in February 2020 and is seeking a $3.3M advance provided to him after claiming that Pacquiao breached their agreement in a number of ways, including the announcement of his pending fight with Errol Spence.

                Paradigm claims that they had negotiated a fight for Pacquiao to face Mikey Garcia in Dubai that would’ve met his financial requirements of a $25M guarantee plus a share in the upside, but after repeatedly promising to put pen to paper and making a verbal commitment to the fight on May 21, 2021, Pacquiao instead tweeted out that he would be taking on Spence without the knowledge of Paradigm, which is alleged to be in direct violation of his contractual agreement with the company. The company says the result of Pacquiao’s actions have not only cost them monetary losses but has also damaged their reputation.

                In response to Paradigm’s claims Pacquiao has now filed a cross-complaint, saying that Paradigm’s offer of a $25M guarantee was decreased when the actual paperwork arrived. Pacquiao’s complaint also states that he’s under a promotional deal with TGB Promotions before he ever signed a management deal with Paradigm and that his agreement with Paradigm acknowledged that Pacquiao’s pre-existing obligations took priority, thus not making his scheduled fight with Spence in violation with his deal.

                If Paradigm is unable to block the upcoming Pacquiao-Spence fight, it’s requesting that the court grant a preliminary injunction that would prevent Pacquiao from making any future fights before its permanent injunction request is formally resolved.

                As of now it’s hard to get a firm read on these types of legal issues. Just in the recent past we were all sure we were on the verge of an undisputed heavyweight title fight between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua before a legal order immediately scuttled those plans last minute. It would seem that a court order stopping Pacquiao-Spence is unlikely at this point, but the idea cannot be completely dismissed.

                https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/7/3...xing-news-2021

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post

                  I don't get why you're being so defensive. I like Errol. I'm betting on him to stop Pacquiao with REAL MONEY. I'm just pointing out that he was noticeably tired in the Mikey fight. His punches lost steam. He also tired in the Danny fight.
                  Lol, Spence was never tired in the mikey fight. You must have been on the same drugs mikey was on when he said he saw something.

                  I repeat, Spence threw more punches in the last four rounds then he did the first eight in the mikey fight.

                  If that, to you, is equal to gassing in the latter rounds then perhaps you live in opposite world.

                  Also, Mikey's corner wanted to stop the fight at the beginning of the eleventh.

                  Why would Mikey's team want to stop the fight in the eleventh if Spence was losing steam?

                  Lol, get out of here man.

                  He did take two rounds off in the Danny fight, but so what? He came on strong in the eleventh and the twelfth and he was coming off a life threatening accident and a long layoff

                  Lol, he'll be in much better shape against Pacquiao, back to to his LIMITLESS stamina.

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                  • #39
                    Geez, folks - - this isn’t a real fight. Pacquiao hasn’t fought in two years and he’ll be 43 in a couple of months. I think Spence is lining up Sugar Ray Leonard and Roberto Duran for his next matches.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Doubledagger View Post

                      Yeah he took two rounds off in the Danny fight, but that's only because he wasn't 100 percent, and one fight, coming off a long lay off and an accident isn't enough to say someone gasses in the later rounds.

                      Prime Spence actually gets stronger and stronger in the latter rounds just look what happened to Mikey, Porter, and Brook in the latter rounds?

                      Freddie is delusional.
                      Mikey was a 135 pound fighter

                      Porter was a good, close win

                      Brook gassed, not Spence, in their fight. Brook was undefeated at 147, put on 13 pounds of muscle to make a real challenge to GGG at 160, then came back down to 147. Ask Roy Jones Jr how that effects a fighter

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