Mexican fighters avoiding slick black fighters?

[Thuglife Nelo]

No I didn’t because I don’t throw around the word ducking. Like I said you went with odh’s word and then he changed what he said. Now you suddenly don’t want to go with his word because it paints canelo in a bad light.

Your fault for going with the word of a coke addict.

Charlo said offers werent good enough for his team. Doesn’t matter what Oscar said. It’s what I said, YOU SAID. You said Canelo asked for Franchise to avoid Charlo, but you’re somehow and mystically telling other posters what a duck is. Lol.

don’t be a coward bro, and next time you get that Burger King manager job, take it, don’t be skurrred wearing that hat

[True-Boxing-Fan]

Isn’t that because styles make fights and often the most exciting fights are when a Taylor or a Floyd fights a Chavez or a Castillo then say a Floyd fighting a Haney?

Those are some good examples of great fights between slick blacks fighting top tier Mexicans.

But pre-this generation, the slick blacks always fought other slick blacks, and those were great fights.

This generation of slick blacks have taken a huge step backwards in their willingness to fight all comers no
matter what and to fight their fellow black fighter which in turn has made them very unfamiliar with the masses and has turned them into nothing more than high risk LOW REWARD type fighters.

Mexicans in general are always willing to fight anyone, slick fighters, plodders, ko artist, and because of that look at their fan base. It’s second to none.

The slick black American could have that same type of fan base if they had that same attitude toward toward fighting their fellow black brothers.

[The Big Dunn]

Those are some good examples of great fights between slick blacks fighting top tier Mexicans.

But pre-this generation, the slick blacks always fought other slick blacks, and those were great fights.

This generation of slick blacks have taken a huge step backwards in their willingness to fight all comers no
matter what and to fight their fellow black fighter which in turn has made them very unfamiliar with the masses and has turned them into nothing more than high risk LOW REWARD type fighters.

Mexicans in general are always willing to fight anyone, slick fighters, plodders, ko artist, and because of that look at their fan base. It’s second to none.

The slick black American could have that same type of fan base if they had that same attitude toward toward fighting their fellow black brothers.

That was in the era of no network deals with boxers and promoters. Now we’re in a complete different era, the one where networks market “ Mexican warriors” and “ all action” fights assuming that is what fans want to see rather than the best guys fight one another.

That isn’t true at all. Just recently Ryan Garcia and jojo Diaz both turned down mando opportunities at Haney. Last I checked they were both Mexican and Haney a slick black fighter.

Mexicans aren’t always willing to fight anyone. Black fighters aren’t avoiding people. The networks and promoters like to protect big names that generate revenue. So a Valdez or a Berchelt will be kept from Stevenson for as long as possible, who will in turn be kept away from Navarette for as long as possible.

[MONGOOSE66]

JoJo Diaz and Ryan Garcia turning down mandatory title shots against Haney

Vergil Ortiz turning down a mandatory title shot against Crawford

Jamie Mungia turning down mandatory title shot against Andrade

What is going on?

I got a couple. Tank turning down Teo. Hainey turning down Teo, Charo turning down Canelo.

[True-Boxing-Fan]

That was in the era of no network deals with boxers and promoters. Now we’re in a complete different era, the one where networks market “ Mexican warriors” and “ all action” fights assuming that is what fans want to see rather than the best guys fight one another.

That isn’t true at all. Just recently Ryan Garcia and jojo Diaz both turned down mando opportunities at Haney. Last I checked they were both Mexican and Haney a slick black fighter.

Mexicans aren’t always willing to fight anyone. Black fighters aren’t avoiding people. The networks and promoters like to protect big names that generate revenue. So a Valdez or a Berchelt will be kept from Stevenson for as long as possible, who will in turn be kept away from Navarette for as long as possible.

That’s not true. Back In the day for example, Hearns or Hagler weren’t given the superstar treatment. They fought all comers to get that notice.

That same attitude could be displayed today by other black fighters if they had that same attitude.

You are correct, not all Mexicans are willing to fight anyone and not all blacks are avoiding people. But fact is the ratio is great with Mexicans willing to fight any and all comers than the black fighters being willing to fight all comers and especially against there fellow black brothers.

It’s the exact reason the Mexican fan base is what it is.

[The Big Dunn]

That’s not true. Back In the day for example, Hearns or Hagler weren’t given the superstar treatment. They fought all comers to get that notice.

That same attitude could be displayed today by other black fighters if they had that same attitude.

You are correct, not all Mexicans are willing to fight anyone and not all blacks are avoiding people. But fact is the ratio is great with Mexicans willing to fight any and all comers than the black fighters being willing to fight all comers and especially against there fellow black brothers.

It’s the exact reason the Mexican fan base is what it is.

That was because they weren’t gold medal winners. Hagler always talked about how his losses made his road incredibly more difficult. He was always bitter about that.

They also fought because at the time neither could get Ray, the big money fight, in the ring.

I don’t think that is the case. I don’t think any Mexican fighter other than canelo controls whom he fights . I think the networks do. As I said we’re in the era where networks market the “ Mexican warrior “ and provide funding for those fights. When there are an abundance of black fighters at a weight- like JMW- we see many matchups of top black fighters.

[The Big Dunn]

I got a couple. Tank turning down Teo. Hainey turning down Teo, Charo turning down Canelo.

Tank turning down Teo? When did this happen?

when did Haney turn down Teo?

as for charlo and canelo, odh has given at least 2 different versions of that story so how do we know what to believe?

[True-Boxing-Fan]

That was because they weren’t gold medal winners. Hagler always talked about how his losses made his road incredibly more difficult. He was always bitter about that.

They also fought because at the time neither could get Ray, the big money fight, in the ring.

I don’t think that is the case. I don’t think any Mexican fighter other than canelo controls whom he fights . I think the networks do. As I said we’re in the era where networks market the “ Mexican warrior “ and provide funding for those fights. When there are an abundance of black fighters at a weight- like JMW- we see many matchups of top black fighters.

What’s the excuse for Haymon and his stable of many great black fighters. Haymon pulls the strings on who his fighters fight and he’s never putting his black fighters in the ring with each other.

When have we gotten many great blacks matchups lately. In every weight class from JWW on up there are many great slick black fighters, but when have they fought each other?

[Thuglife Nelo]

Tank turning down Teo? When did this happen?

when did Haney turn down Teo?

as for charlo and canelo, odh has given at least 2 different versions of that story so how do we know what to believe?

Right… Mr. “Canelo asked for Franchise to avoid Charlo” lol

[Thuglife Nelo]

What’s the excuse for Haymon and his stable of many great black fighters. Haymon pulls the strings on who his fighters fight and he’s never putting his black fighters in the ring with each other.

When have we gotten many great blacks matchups lately. In every weight class from JWW on up there are many great slick black fighters, but when have they fought each other?

Basically. Even when Lara stopped being stablemate to the Charlos he said he had no problem fighting them but the LDBC kids nor the PBC fighters instigated it. But Canelo “avoids” yet he he was the second after Angulo to fight him… but but Messicans doe.