Why do some people pretend anyone at HW could beat Wilder?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Let the Cunningham and Pajkic thing go, Fury was not even top 20/30 in the world at that time, and was fighting at domestic level. He was hardly the same guy that beat Wlad. That version of Fury facing 2015 Wlad, would have been smashed out inside 1 round.

Why you even explain things to that casuals. They probably also think that Pacquiao is the same guy that lost to some bum 25 years ago.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Rahman beats everybody Fury ever fought apart from Klitschko including Wilder. Holyfield is unquestioned as an ATG anybody that knows boxing knows it. If Cunninhgham and Pajkic who are straight garbage can flatten Fury what do you think a Foreman or Liston would do to him. They would demolish him. Wilder is a bum-killer who never fought a single elite HW so beating him means nothing to me.

Your problem is YDKSAB boxing. No serious judges even consider Fury on the level of others because his CV is total garbage. He hasn't even fought the best Heavyweight in the UK (AJ) let alone any other top HW's.

Keep getting conned like the other mugs.

Smart ass, now you look when Pajkic and Cunningham fights happened. Fury is not the same fighter now.

If you don`t understand that fighters develop, you don`t know shi.t about boxing.

There is zero evidence that Mike Tyson, Foreman, whoever would beat Kronk Fury. I don`t count fantasy fights.

[Left Hook Tua]

Why you even explain things to that casuals. They probably also think that Pacquiao is the same guy that lost to some bum 25 years ago.

You think pac that beat down a giant marg could beat the pac that got kfto by the great rustico torrecampo?

[-Kev-]

''Any top 30 boxer has a great shot at beating Wilder if they make it all 12.'' That is a big IF.
None of the top 30 HWs today have a great chin or defense.

I think its more than a fair assumption to say he will land at some point as we've seen many times and virtually all times they can't take his power.

And as terrible as his boxing ability is its probably not much if any worse than a lot of these other HWs. They're all flawed too ****.

I won't ever say it was a masterclass but his boxing ability in Stiverne 1 was probably better than a lot of these other HWs. I can't think of Dillian Whyte for example ever putting on such a display tbh
I think he is a horrible boxer also. Its why I'd like to see him fight Wilder I think they share a lot of the same pros and cons.

I agree. I mean all there is in boxing is literally punching. That’s all you can do in this sport. So if a fighter would beat another fighter if he can avoid getting punched…I mean that’s hilarious to me. It’s amusing.

If Wilder vs Whyte happens any time soon, we will get the “Wilder was losing before he got the KO!” comments from the highly intelligent boxing community.

Hey! Fighter A would not have beaten Fighter B if Fighter A hadn’t punched Fighter B so hard! He can only win by punching his opponent! All Fighter B had to do was not get punched and he would have won.

Like really?

[mromano]

I think there is a lot of misinterpretation with this. The big topic of discussion is Fury-Wilder and based on the history of the 2 fights, most think Fury is going to have an easier time with Wilder in fight 3. I do not personally think Wilder's performance vs Fury is indicative of his potential fights with other HW's. I think Wilder can beat AJ due to what we've witnessed vs Ruiz. I think Wilder can also beat Ruiz because he also has a suspect chin as seen vs AJ and also Arreloa. On the contrary, I also believe those guys have a punchers chance vs Wilder. I feel that Fury has Wilder's number and no matter what Wilder tries to change it will not be good enough.

[-Kev-]

“Any current top 10 HW can beat Wilder by decision if they can avoid getting punched really hard by him. They can also win if they can catch him with something hard before he can catch them as well. The only way they would lose is if Wilder catches them with a hard punch.”

Very insightful.

From 1990 to 1992, if you could avoid getting struck out by Randy Johnson, you had a good chance of getting a base on balls (walk, 4 bad pitches, take a free base). He was the leader in base on balls in those years, meaning the worst. He had more walks than any other pitcher. Very wild. So just don’t swing. See if he’d walk you. But he was also a leader in strikeouts. So yeah. Good luck.

You had a guy who is 6’10”, lack of control, he didn’t “pitch”, he threw the ball as hard as he could. Unlike pitchers like Greg Maddux, who pitched with intelligence/control/deceiving batters. Randy Johnson was just literally throwing balls at his catcher from
1990-1992. Hoping to strikeout the batter. Hoping to not walk the batter. Hoping to not hit the batter.

If the batter didn’t strikeout, he could have walked, flied out, hit a single, double, triple, home run, fouled out, grounded out, or get hit by pitch (which Johnson was the leader of in that timeframe also).

From 1990 - 1992, It seemed like the only time Randy Johnson, a pitcher, was successful, was when he struck out batters.

Lol.

[Left Hook Tua]

If wilder doesn't knock you out, it's easy to beat him.

Kek

[jmrf4435]

Tyson Fury KO’ed Wilder and now fans are pretending that the loss means everyone else can do that to Wilder.

Fury can KO Wilder in round 1 of their trilogy, it still won’t mean AJ, Whyte, Ruiz, Ortiz, or Usyk would automatically beat him.

Wilder looked real silly with his excuses and he has pretty much become a laughing stock. This has also led to fans giving Wilder a bunch of fantasy losses. Fury would whoop almost any HW in history. With his size, skills and movement. He’s a problem to any HW in history.

a fight with Dillian whyte is 50/50

Wilder doesn't have a good chin--Uyk has a chance too

[TMLT87]

Hes a massive puncher who is also very defensively vulnerable, one dimensional and unproven against high end opponents.

I think he always has a solid punchers chance against anyone, and may well spark Fury out one of these times. But if he was consistently facing top 10 level guys i'd expect him to have multiple losses by now.

[Nash out]

Why you even explain things to that casuals. They probably also think that Pacquiao is the same guy that lost to some bum 25 years ago.

Yes, I know, it's just baffling to me so many mention those fights, as Fury was nowhere near the world scene really then, and had a ton of flaws, he was struggling in almost every fight, Firtha as well at a similar time period, he improved bit by bit, and by the time he faced Chisora 2 in DEC 2014, He had mastered boxing off the back foot. I'm not even sure he got hit in 10 rounds vs Chisora, and look at the problems Chisora caused prime Usyk, Parker, Takam, and Whye in both fights. Now that Fury has also mastered the Kronk, front foot, destroying machine style as well, he is as unbeatable as any Heavyweight could be.