Comments Thread For: Shannon Briggs, Due To Delay, Sees Fury-Wilder as Closer Fight

[Combat Talk Radio]

Wilder can take it as serious as he likes but you cant learn to box at 35 years old.

I don't know how many times I need to tell you people this.

Wilder CAN box.

Wilder USED to box.

Wilder is an Olympic medalist FFS.

The problem is that he never really needed to tap into that side except for Stiverne, where he boxed like Lennox Lewis.

The other problem is, he tried that style against Fury in the rematch, which was a mistake.

Tyson Fury loses to an aggressive Wilder that doesn't stop throwing. All Fury does is smother and brace when punches come at him. He can't firefight, he never has.

[Gamboal00]

The chicken is coming home to roost for our boy Tyson Fury; mentally he is in bits, all that cheating and lying has caught up with him. Karma is real, especially if you are a superstitious gypsy like drug-cheat Fury. It will be nice to watch him slowly unravel, which is great payback for all the wrong he has committed in this sport.

[medic5678]

I don't see the outcome as any different. Fury is just too much for Wilder. His size and ability to move mean a lot. Look at the second fight if you doubt what will happen in the 3rd. Wilder cannot learn to box at 35. Once they get in there, they're in there. And if Wilder wins, I'm fine with that. I just don't think he can.

[KingGilgamesh]

Wilder can take it as serious as he likes but you cant learn to box at 35 years old. His best bet on winning will remain same as 1dt 2 fights, which was to some how land one and put fury to sleep for the 10 this time rather then the 5 he did the 1st fight. Any other option of fighting style will just make furys night easier

This is just garbage. Horse**** from someone who has never stepped foot in the ring.

Old boxers don't fail to learn no skills because they cant, its often because they wont. Many great fighters HAVE to change their styles in order to accomodate their loss of speed and reflexes.

Fed up of seeing this ****** **** parroted by idiots. I started striking at ****ing 30 and I regularly beat the **** out pf people in my gym purely through technical superiority, despite them being years younger than me. If you want to learn, you'll learn. If you dont, you wont.

Wilder's rights never "somehow" landed, it was often because he would set up through the right, or wait opponents out who would tire and fail to move laterally or slip efficiently.

[KingGilgamesh]

The most laughable aspect of this, is the "Sparring" thing. Most boxers get their as*es kicked in sparring. Means nothing when you actually get in the ring. Unless you are concussed in sparring a few weeks before the fight.

Nah.

It really depends.

Beaten up whilst just training without any fights on the horizon? Amazing learning tool.
Getting beat up at the start of camp? All good, lets you know you need to step things up a gear.
Beaten up 2-3 weeks before a fight? Bad. Really bad.

I honestly don't believe Fury is the balls to the wall sparring type but I also think he's meticulous and needs to go in believing he has every advantage in his arsenal. Getting dropped in sparring close to a fight does bad things to your confidence, really bad things. I'm meant to be fighting myself in September/October and got my ass handed to me by this little guy who fought very aggressively (I'm a tall southpaw who often fights on the backfoot and doesn't impose my weight outside of the clinch...I'm also allergic to pressure fighters ) and it ****ed my confidence for days. And thats despite not having anything on the horizon for at least two months. God knows what it does to a fighter who has a fight in a fortnight.

There is a reason why many camps/coaches dont have their fighters sparring up to two weeks prior to a contest.

[Ropeydope]

I don’t see how the sparring narrative and the Covid narrative are mutually exclusive. If Covid got into his camp, supposedly brought in by sparring a partner, wouldn’t that adversely effect Fury’s sparring performance, especially assuming not all of his young, stud, sparring partners had the virus, when he actually did before shutting it down.
So many people are quick to call this a conspiracy, but it doesn’t sound far fetched in light of all the fights that were cancelled or opponents changed last minute in combat sports of the past year.
I also find it hard to believe that with everything at stake, lawyers working for camp Wilder wouldn’t be verifying all this. I mean even Wilder hasn’t pulled out his tin foil hat for this one.

[JATExTHAxSNAKE]

This is just garbage. Horse**** from someone who has never stepped foot in the ring.

Old boxers don't fail to learn no skills because they cant, its often because they wont. Many great fighters HAVE to change their styles in order to accomodate their loss of speed and reflexes.

Fed up of seeing this ****** **** parroted by idiots. I started striking at ****ing 30 and I regularly beat the **** out pf people in my gym purely through technical superiority, despite them being years younger than me. If you want to learn, you'll learn. If you dont, you wont.

Wilder's rights never "somehow" landed, it was often because he would set up through the right, or wait opponents out who would tire and fail to move laterally or slip efficiently.

Totally agree….having taught and studied aki jutsu at 140lbs and possessing the ability to throw 250lbs folks around like rag dolls….I have retired but I started late in my training…..I’ve been telling people that if you really pay attention to the last fights you will clearly see that wilder never hit fury flush….fury always so far has managed to slip and mainly roll with what has halfway connected….the time wilder did knock fury down those shots were not flush

[Marchegiano]

This is just garbage. Horse**** from someone who has never stepped foot in the ring.

Old boxers don't fail to learn no skills because they cant, its often because they wont. Many great fighters HAVE to change their styles in order to accomodate their loss of speed and reflexes.

Fed up of seeing this ****** **** parroted by idiots. I started striking at ****ing 30 and I regularly beat the **** out pf people in my gym purely through technical superiority, despite them being years younger than me. If you want to learn, you'll learn. If you dont, you wont.

Wilder's rights never "somehow" landed, it was often because he would set up through the right, or wait opponents out who would tire and fail to move laterally or slip efficiently.

It's like they don't know who George Foreman is.

[FLY TY]

Nah.

It really depends.

Beaten up whilst just training without any fights on the horizon? Amazing learning tool.
Getting beat up at the start of camp? All good, lets you know you need to step things up a gear.
Beaten up 2-3 weeks before a fight? Bad. Really bad.

I honestly don't believe Fury is the balls to the wall sparring type but I also think he's meticulous and needs to go in believing he has every advantage in his arsenal. Getting dropped in sparring close to a fight does bad things to your confidence, really bad things. I'm meant to be fighting myself in September/October and got my ass handed to me by this little guy who fought very aggressively (I'm a tall southpaw who often fights on the backfoot and doesn't impose my weight outside of the clinch...I'm also allergic to pressure fighters ) and it ****ed my confidence for days. And thats despite not having anything on the horizon for at least two months. God knows what it does to a fighter who has a fight in a fortnight.

There is a reason why many camps/coaches dont have their fighters sparring up to two weeks prior to a contest.

Exactly. These dudes will spin anything. 2 weeks out from the fight, he's not just getting beat up, he's getting stopped in sparring.

[champion4ever]

The chances of Fury ever fighting Deontay Wilder again is very slim to none. He won't be mentally prepared to fight Wilder in October either.

He should just go ahead and retire because if not Wilder is going to beat the living shit out of him now. He is a broken fighter who is mentally weak. He is a man who cannot stand pressure. When he does he has breakdowns like this one.

Fury is mentally destroyed. Which is why he quit and forfeited the trilogy bout.