Is taking a knee quitting?

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  • strugler
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    #11
    Originally posted by Little Mac
    You can scratch my Yes vote. It's not necessarily quitting. I've seen fighters do it to regain composure, but I may have also seen it used in a "forget this ****!" manner.

    so thats no vote for yes..................its a very vague line i admit........

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    • tkos
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      #12
      i think its simple. if you get up and fight then its not. if you do it and stay down then yes.

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      • civicvx
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        #13
        Taking a knee is not quitting, well if you don't run the time out. If you plan to just get yourself count out than ofcourse you're quitting. If you just need some extra time to get yourself refocus than that's just being smart. See this is the answer to the other thread about,"Is this a ***** move". When Tito got hurt by Vargas and he intentionally sock Vargas in the nuts that's a ***** move. He couldn't take his beating like a man so he had to take Vargas out. What he should have done was went down on his knee and gain his composure.
        Last edited by civicvx; 09-04-2009, 02:34 AM.

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        • El Angel
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          #14
          No, if you are trying to get your balance and get a breather, it's not quitting. If you are aware and rest on your knee and get counted out because you don't think your going to win, that's quitting.

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          • strugler
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            #15
            Do you have to be hit seconds before prior to taking a knee?...................if you werent ........does it mean you actually quit?.............even if you get up before the count of ten..............

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            • strugler
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              #16
              more votes.........bump

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              • KILLA RIGHT
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                #17
                Originally posted by mangler
                This has been done to death. In general, no it ain't. If a fighter is hurt and can't clinch or throw back, he takes a knee. This buys him recovery time at the expense of a 2 pt rd for his opponent. It also shows the ref he's got the presence of mind to know he's in trouble and he ain't just out on his feet. 1st example I can think of off the top of my head is Sergei against Lamon Brewster. He took a knee, but recovered to win a HW belt in a war.

                If this is specifically a reference to Marg-Cotto, dude ain't quit. He just got his fuckin ass kicked. If that fight was still winnable and he went down of his own accord, then it'd be quittage. But it wasn't. He fought til he couldn't fight no more.
                Perfectly said

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                • Al Haymon
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                  #18
                  If you take a knee, then you are giving up that round. Giving up a point. It may be a smart thing to do strategically if you are winning or in a close fight. You need to regroup. Fine.

                  If you take a second knee, you are almost taking yourself out of the fight. There are very few fights when a guy goes down twice and wins ( Bradley/Holt, McCline, etc).

                  In my eyes, if you are taking a second knee, then you are telling your corner and/or the ref that you are done. That is quitting.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by strugler
                    Yes or No..............and why..........poll to follow?..............if you answered yes back it up with where in the rule book it is stated so.....not just personal opinions and speculations.....................Generally speaking ofcourse.........
                    depends.

                    if you take a knee with the intention to get a little rest, then get back to work, then No, it's not considered quitting.

                    but if you take a knee with no intention to resume boxing in the hopes that your corner will stop the fight, then yes, you quit.

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                    • Al Haymon
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      depends.

                      if you take a knee with the intention to get a little rest, then get back to work, then No, it's not considered quitting.

                      but if you take a knee with no intention to resume boxing in the hopes that your corner will stop the fight, then yes, you quit.
                      If you are the trainer, and your fighter has taken a knee for a second time, don't you feel obligated to step in? He's telling you all you need to know.

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