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  • blowblow
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    #11
    Originally posted by Oregonian
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    You shouldn’t be mentioning Broner or Rios. Those were pathetic fights.
    I respect Manny but we aren’t going to forget the farce fights against guys that were literally coming off losses. Let’s count them, shall we?

    1- Clottey had just lost to Cotto
    2- Margarito had been KO’d by Mosley and a dubious catchweight
    3- Mosley had lost to Floyd and drew with Moraa.
    4- Brandon Rios had lost to Alvarado
    5- Broner was coming off two losses and a draw
    6- Mathysse was rebuilding after getting beat by Danny Garcia
    7- Vargas was irrelevant at 147
    8- Cotto was a catchweight at 145 (where’s the challenge in that when you weaken a man?)
    9- Oscar at 147, need I say more?
    10- Manny wanted to fight McGregor after criticizing Floyd for it. The only reason they didn’t fight is because Connor lost.
    11- Algieri was a virtual unknown kickboxer and a 144 Ibs catchweight.

    We recognize Manny’s greatness but we can’t ignore a lot of the unnecessary pathetic mismatches.
    mcgregor is the worst compared to the ones you said.. atleast they are in the same sports as pac and with a lot of boxing experience.. did you really count mcgregor in his 50 wins?

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    • aaronbnb
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      #12
      Freddie’s a heroic individual but it’s time for him to retire or change how he does his job. His condition is too advanced to be adequately doing mitts with guys.

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      • sceneboxing
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        #13
        He's still here. And he's still an idiot.

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #14
          Originally posted by Spoon23

          Actually he wasn't. He went below the belt when he said he's going to crucify Pacquiao with a crown of Thorns. That's religious blasphemy. Pac took that seriously.
          That's hype for the fight

          Listen to how he talks about pac pre fight scheduled and post fight

          Once the fight is scheduled he's gonna have to talk big to promote the fight and to psyche himself up

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #15
            Originally posted by Oregonian
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            You shouldn’t be mentioning Broner or Rios. Those were pathetic fights.
            I respect Manny but we aren’t going to forget the farce fights against guys that were literally coming off losses. Let’s count them, shall we?

            1- Clottey had just lost to Cotto
            2- Margarito had been KO’d by Mosley and a dubious catchweight
            3- Mosley had lost to Floyd and drew with Moraa.
            4- Brandon Rios had lost to Alvarado
            5- Broner was coming off two losses and a draw
            6- Mathysse was rebuilding after getting beat by Danny Garcia
            7- Vargas was irrelevant at 147
            8- Cotto was a catchweight at 145 (where’s the challenge in that when you weaken a man?)
            9- Oscar at 147, need I say more?
            10- Manny wanted to fight McGregor after criticizing Floyd for it. The only reason they didn’t fight is because Connor lost.
            11- Algieri was a virtual unknown kickboxer and a 144 Ibs catchweight.

            We recognize Manny’s greatness but we can’t ignore a lot of the unnecessary pathetic mismatches.
            In pac's defense, alot of that is on his promoters

            1. Cotto, clottey, marg, Bradley, etc. were all top rank

            Bob wanted all manny fights against his fighters

            Thats why Mosley had to leave gbp before getting a pac fight.

            You see the same thing with pbc

            Hes working under pbc and pbc is feeding him all their boxers in broner, Thurman, spence

            2. Guys like Vargas, mathysse, Rios were soft touches right after a loss or right before a big fight

            After a loss, usually pac takes a year off instead of the usual 2 fights a year

            With the year off, he takes a soft touch on the fight back

            Understandable especially after the jmm ko and the rough, dirty fight with horn where he got busted up by headbutts

            3. You're trying too hard if you put Oscar in there

            Oscar was the cash cow

            Oscar dictated everything

            Manny was a 130 fighter at the time and had 1 fight at 135

            Manny didn't cherry pick Oscar, Oscar cherry picked manny because floyd-oscar 2 fight fell through

            4. You really gonna bring up a fight that didn't even happen with McGregor

            Give me a break

            Like I said, you're trying way too hard

            It seems like you also have a lack of knowledge on what happened or how boxing works.
            Last edited by Left Hook Tua; 07-11-2021, 12:38 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by aaronbnb
              Freddie’s a heroic individual but it’s time for him to retire or change how he does his job. His condition is too advanced to be adequately doing mitts with guys.
              I came to post the same thing, Freddie looks old you can see the Parkinson's is really starting to take its toll. Terribly sad

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              • Liondw
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                #17
                Freddie looks much older now but I'm sure he still has the desire and sharpness to train fighters.

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                  ​​​​​life is meaningless

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Tibburon245
                    Spence is smart by not talking much like Thurman who was going to bring in the new era. Likewise Broner & Rios--big talk doesn't win fights.
                    wut'cho talkin bout?? didnt spence promise to KO pac into retirement?? that's pretty much the same thang thurman said to pac besides the t-rex arms..

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

                      In pac's defense, alot of that is on his promoters

                      1. Cotto, clottey, marg, Bradley, etc. were all top rank

                      Using your points, the reason Floyd didn’t fight Cotto or Margarito in 2008 or 2009 was Bob Arum. Remember that when you defend PAC

                      Bob wanted all manny fights against his fighters

                      Thats why Mosley had to leave gbp before getting a pac fight.

                      You see the same thing with pbc


                      2. Guys like Vargas, mathysse, Rios were soft touches right after a loss or right before a big fight
                      Be honest what I am asking you - if Floyd had fought Rios or Mathysse or Broner or Vargas or Algieri or Clottey in preparation for a big fight, would you be less critical of him?

                      After a loss, usually pac takes a year off instead of the usual 2 fights a year

                      Understandable especially after the jmm ko and the rough, dirty fight with horn where he got busted up by headbutts

                      3. You're trying too hard if you put Oscar in there

                      Oscar was the cash cow. Oscar dictated everything

                      Oscar did the same thing with Floyd and still lost.

                      Manny was a 130 fighter at the time and had 1 fight at 135

                      Manny didn't cherry pick Oscar, Oscar cherry picked manny because floyd-oscar 2 fight fell through


                      4. You really gonna bring up a fight that didn't even happen with McGregor
                      Listen yourself man!! Manny was negotiating a fight with Connor and would have fought him if Connor hadn’t lost to Priore. It’s super hypocritical that you criticize Floyd for fighting Connor. The fact is negotiations were going on for PAC to fight Connor.

                      Give me a break

                      Like I said, you're trying way too hard

                      It seems like you also have a lack of knowledge on what happened or how boxing works.
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                      All my response in bold

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