Calzaghe is a shoe in ATG.

[studentofthegam]

I might take you up on that tomorrow if i have time, frankly i don't right now and i have a long day at work tomotrrow so it might be sunday before i reply.

Oh and for starters heres 10 CURRENT fighters who will be above him

Holyfield
Pac
BHop
PBF
RJJ
SSM
ODLH
MAB
Morales
JMM

I agree to all of those but boy you got 90 more to go. This list here covers a whole decade and boxing has been cronicled for only about 100 or so years. The way you answered earlier I thought it would be easy for you but go ahead and get your study on. Good luck.

[The Hammer]

top ten rated fighters Calzaghe faced in his Super Middleweight reign:
Robin Reid #6,
Richie Woodhall #8,
Charles Brewer #5,
Byron Mitchell #5,
Lacy #3,
Peter Manfredo #10, and of course
Kessler #2.

And then you have Hopkins and Roy. and I would throw Bika in there too, because he got rated after Calzaghe beat him. I would mention Eubank too

Is that ATG worthy? Im not being sarcastic, but here are the facts, now make your decision. I dont think title defences or undefeated records mean much, its who you beat (and how) that matters by far the most.

Mikkel Kessler was actually ranked #1 by the Ring, Jeff Lacy was ranked #2 (no champion then, Joe was ranked #1), and Bernard Hopkins was ranked C for champion at 175.

[Steak]

Mikkel Kessler was actually ranked #1 by the Ring, Jeff Lacy was ranked #2 (no champion then, Joe was ranked #1), and Bernard Hopkins was ranked C for champion at 175.

well, I was counting Calzaghe for the Kessler one...Kessler couldnt have been the #1 when Calzaghe was the #1.
I get that he was the 'champion', but I still include him in the top ten rankings anyway.

Lacy was rated #3 at the end of 2005, and he fought Calzaghe only 3 months into 2006. maybe he was rated #2 going into the fight, but it seems kind of silly to bump him up a level when he didnt beat anyone at all during those 3 months.
1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Mikkel Kessler
3. Jeff Lacy
4. Markus Beyer
5. Anthony Mundine
6. Danny Green
7. Manny Siaca
8. Otis Grant
9. Robin Reid
10. Librado Andrade
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...eweight--2000s

theres no point in really getting too deep in it anyway though, Kessler and Lacy are Calzaghe's most well and talked about wins anyways, alongside Hopkins.

[koboy]

calzaghe in my eyes isn't an atg
hell he shouldnt even make it in hof
but thats just my opinion

This is obvious hater speak. I don't think he is an ATG but I'm sure he'll be in the Hall.

[Vladimir303]

To consider Calzaghe a Top 25 ATG is disrespect to other fighters before him who have done and fought more. A list of 30 fighters from the last 100 years can easly be posted that doesn't include Calzaghe, and for a good reason.

I didn't quote the idiot who said but boy, that post took the cake.

[Matt Marvelous]

If ATG stands for All Time Good, then yeah. Otherwise...no.

[Blue Heffner]

He's an HOFer but far from ATG.

[hammerhiem]

I agree to all of those but boy you got 90 more to go. This list here covers a whole decade and boxing has been cronicled for only about 100 or so years. The way you answered earlier I thought it would be easy for you but go ahead and get your study on. Good luck.

OK punchy i'm back from work and I have an ice cold beer, lets dance.

1. Sugar ray Robinson
2. Cassius Clay
3. Archie Moore
4. Joe lewis
5. Marvin Hagler
6. Sugar Ray Leonard
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Roberto Duran
9. Jack Johnson
10. Nicolino Locche

11-20 in no particular order.

Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Henry Armstrong
Pernell Whittaker
De Jesus
Willy Pep
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Harry Greb
Jimmy Wilde

21-30 in no particular order

Pacquiao
Bernard Hopkins
Tommy Gibbons
Jersey Joe Walcott
Sonny Liston
JCC Snr
Ted "kid" Lewis
Argurllo
Cervantes
Gene Tunney

30-40 inpo

Rocky Marciano
Floyd mayweather Jnr
Jake Lamotta
Wilfredo Gomez
Larry Holmes
Bob Fitzsimmonds
Jack Dempsey
Jose Napoles
Arcari
Carlos Monzon


40-50 inpo

RJJ
SSM
Sam Langford
Eder Jofre
I Vazquez
Khaosai Galaxy
Fighting Harada
Lennox Lewis
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
Ezzard Charles

50-60 inpo

ODLH
MAB
Eric Morales
Vicente Saldivar
Azumah Nelson
Mike McCallum
Ricardo Lopez
Brian Mitchell
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks

60-70 inpo

JMM
Diego Corrales
Mike Tyson
Ingemar Johansson
Eligio "kid chocolate" Montalvo
Benny Leonard
Sandy Saddler
**** Tiger
Felix Trinidad
Eusebio Pedroza

70-80

Tony Canzoneri
Joe Gans
Stanley Ketchel
Johnny Dundee
Jack Britton
Barney Ross
Max Schmeling
Freddie "Red" Cochrane
Emile Griffith
Wilfred Benitez

80-90

Tony Zale
Sandro Mazzinghi
Ki-Soo Kim
Samual Serrano
Freddie Little
James Toney
**** Tiger
Mickey Walker
Pascual Perez
Harry Wills

90-100

W Vazquez
Ike Williams
Packey McFarland
Sandy Saddler
Carlos Ortiz
Harry Wills
Tommy Ryan
Battling Levinsky
Kid Gavilan
Joe Calzaghe.

thanks, my brain now hurts...

[studentofthegam]

OK punchy i'm back from work and I have an ice cold beer, lets dance.

1. Sugar ray Robinson
2. Cassius Clay
3. Archie Moore
4. Joe lewis
5. Marvin Hagler
6. Sugar Ray Leonard
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Roberto Duran
9. Jack Johnson
10. Nicolino Locche

11-20 in no particular order.

Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Henry Armstrong
Pernell Whittaker
De Jesus
Willy Pep
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Harry Greb
Jimmy Wilde

21-30 in no particular order

Pacquiao
Bernard Hopkins
Tommy Gibbons
Jersey Joe Walcott
Sonny Liston
JCC Snr
Ted "kid" Lewis
Argurllo
Cervantes
Gene Tunney

30-40 inpo

Rocky Marciano
Floyd mayweather Jnr
Jake Lamotta
Wilfredo Gomez
Larry Holmes
Bob Fitzsimmonds
Jack Dempsey
Jose Napoles
Arcari
Carlos Monzon


40-50 inpo

RJJ
SSM
Sam Langford
Eder Jofre
I Vazquez
Khaosai Galaxy
Fighting Harada
Lennox Lewis
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
Ezzard Charles

50-60 inpo

ODLH
MAB
Eric Morales
Vicente Saldivar
Azumah Nelson
Mike McCallum
Ricardo Lopez
Brian Mitchell
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks

60-70 inpo

JMM
Diego Corrales
Mike Tyson
Ingemar Johansson
Eligio "kid chocolate" Montalvo
Benny Leonard
Sandy Saddler
**** Tiger
Felix Trinidad
Eusebio Pedroza

70-80

Tony Canzoneri
Joe Gans
Stanley Ketchel
Johnny Dundee
Jack Britton
Barney Ross
Max Schmeling
Freddie "Red" Cochrane
Emile Griffith
Wilfred Benitez

80-90

Tony Zale
Sandro Mazzinghi
Ki-Soo Kim
Samual Serrano
Freddie Little
James Toney
**** Tiger
Mickey Walker
Pascual Perez
Harry Wills

90-100

W Vazquez
Ike Williams
Packey McFarland
Sandy Saddler
Carlos Ortiz
Harry Wills
Tommy Ryan
Battling Levinsky
Kid Gavilan
Joe Calzaghe.

thanks, my brain now hurts...

Ok you get your money. A few questionables but OK. By Da Way I was tellin Adrian I dont like it when people call me punchy.

[studentofthegam]

Oh yeah thats only 99. See I aint so bad.