Calzaghe is a shoe in ATG.

[studentofthegam]

Everyone knows why he doesn't deserve it. He's undefeated for a reason, and it is not because he's one of the ATG. What i was trying to say was that there is motive to why fans of his constantly have to hail him, and convince boxing fans that he really is as good as his record. Read between my lines

No one is going to get 100% backing on any fighters still fighting. Im still trying to convince people that Floyd is an ATG,but Malignaggi and Prince Naseem are glorified by the same people. THats what the forums are about, a difference in opinion.

[studentofthegam]

If you're going to make a point, do it. Undefeated record is an accomplishment but there's a reason why most of the greats don't have one. Unless, of course, you put Calzaghe into the Robinson/Duran stratosphere.

I have no problem with him being mentioned with them. He was a hell of a lot better boxer than Duran. Now thats what you call walking through fire with gasoline draws.

[Stoppage]

To me he's a hall of famer but not an ATG. Sure, he did beat ATG's but they were way past their prime. I'll give him the Lacy and Kessler wins, though.

[studentofthegam]

Sorry, but anyone with a ounce of Boxing knowledge know's that his career is a joke.

Question Marks everywhere.

I dont rate someone who's biggest wins are Lacy and Kessler.

Oh, and a dodgy SD against a 43 year old.

If you want to make a big deal of being undefeated, i take Ottke is another Boxing superstar?

Sir there is no question. He beat Lacy up like any great fighter would. Kessler is a very good fighter so apparently didnt see that fight. BHop is probably the only fighter that is better in his 40s than in his early 30s. And he made a mockery of Roy who was past his prime but still a HOFer in every sense of the word. There is no way you compare him to Ottke, You as boxing Guru know that. The joke is that you made that comparison.

[SuperTrooper]

Maybe in the top 125 and that's me being generous. He's sure a HOF.

[AKATheMack]

He was very good and the 0 does mean something, but no way in hell he cracks the top 100.

[Sick/]

Perhaps he won't be remembered because Yank people favour bums like Roy bum jones jr and B-Bum Hopkins. Yank people tend to favour thier own bums and overhype thier fighters.

[AKATheMack]

Perhaps he won't be remembered because Yank people favour bums like Roy bum jones jr and B-Bum Hopkins. Yank people tend to favour thier own bums and overhype thier fighters.

Those quite possibly could be the most clever nicknames Ive ever heard.

[studentofthegam]

He was very good and the 0 does mean something, but no way in hell he cracks the top 100.

Maybe in the top 125 and that's me being generous. He's sure a HOF.

Its funny you all throw up the number 100. I would be willing to send the both of you $20 each if you email me a list of 100 boxers that are better than Joe. viccarrington@yahoo.com

[SuperTrooper]

Its funny you all throw up the number 100. I would be willing to send the both of you $20 each if you email me a list of 100 boxers that are better than Joe. viccarrington@yahoo.com

How about I post the list here and you PayPal me the money?