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  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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    #51
    Salsa music is a diverse and predominantly Cuban Caribbean genre that is popular across Latin America and among Latinos abroad that was brought to international fame by Cuban and Puerto Rican musicians. Salsa incorporates multiple styles and variations; the term has and can be used to describe most any form of popular Cuban-derived genre, such as chachachá and Son. Most specifically, however, salsa refers to a particular style developed in the 1960s and '70s by Puerto Rican and Cuban immigrants to the New York City area, and its later stylistic descendants including 1980s salsa romantica and other sub-genres. The style is now practiced throughout Latin America, and abroad. Salsa's closest relatives are Cuban son and mambo, typified by orchestras of the early 20th century, as well as Latin jazz. The terms Latin jazz and salsa are sometimes used interchangeably; many musicians are considered a part of either (like Tito Puente, Eddie Palmieri, Ray Barretto among others), or both, fields, especially performers from prior to the 1970s.[1]

    Salsa is essentially Cuban in stylistic origin
    .[2]. though it also has styles mixed with pop, jazz, rock, and R&B.[3] Salsa is the primary music played at Latin dance clubs and is the "essential pulse of Latin music", according to Ed Morales,[4] while music author Peter Manuel called it the "most popular dance (music) among Puerto Rican and Cuban communities, (and in) Central and South America", and "one of the most dynamic and significant pan-American musical phenomena of the 1970s and 1980s".[5] Modern salsa remains a dance-oriented genre and is closely associated with a style of salsa dancing.

    I will agree that Puertorican'shave had a huge impact on the music as far back as it's roots but it is considered of Cuban origin.

    Even Tito puente once famously said that "salsa" isn't something you play, it's something you eat.

    What Puerto Rico has done is brought it to the main stream. Because Cuba was under communist rule, it was shut out from the Western world, while Puerto Rico took over the role that Cuban musicians had a monopoly on in the 1950's in NYC and Havana. Cubans created the sound, Puerto Ricans made it famous to the world.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #52
      Originally posted by coufsax
      The PR tradition of trios or seises wasn't brought here by no mexican it was from spain that's why our national instrument is the cuatro PR has a great musical tradition right now two of the best sax players are PR David Sanchez and Miguel Zenon and the best conga player also PR Giovanni Hidalgo. Puerto Rico is small in size but h HUGE in size.
      I didn't say it was brought over BY a Mexican, just that Spain introduced that style to Mexico FIRST. Since Mexico was the first major colony of Spain in the new world and the most developed.........relax

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      • Benncollinsaad
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        #53
        Ok, enough of the music debate already! This isn't a music forum.

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          #54
          Originally posted by oc9979
          thanks I replied late cuz I was outside playing basketball.

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          • Lokotron
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            #55
            Originally posted by chicano79us
            Did you read the "too" part?? I like all types of music but I'll be honest. Lots of beats latinos have in their songs.....prs/mexicans/colombians is repetitive.
            Yeah but if the song hadn't had the beat it wouldn't be reggeaton its a another type of music its just not the type of song you like.

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            • Caxcan
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              #56
              IMHO popular music like reggaeton and nortena music both suck but the traditional music from both countries is first rate. One of the best musical groups from latin america is Trios Los Panchos comprised of a Puerto Rican and two Mexicans.

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                #57
                Originally posted by coufsax
                Wrong! el son is cuban guaguanco is PR, Salsa started in NY by the PR that immigrated there in the 50's and cubans that lived there. I'm taking 3 classes of music history right now and I play with a band called San Juan Habana we are 2 cubans 4 ricans and we play mostly salsa so please get your facts right
                Guaguancó is a sub-genre of Cuban rumba, a complex rhythmic music and dance style. The traditional line-up consists of:

                * three drums, similar to conga drums: the tumba (lowest), llamador (middle, playing a cross-clave counter rhythm), and quinto (highest, solo drum). These parts may also be played on cajones, wooden boxes.
                * claves
                * a solo singer
                * the coro (chorus)
                * two dancers, one male, one female.[1]

                Other instruments may be used on occasion, for example spoons, palitos (wooden sticks striking the side of the drum) or guagua (kind of woodblock).

                Some historians have suggested that the guaguanco may be derived from the yuka, a secular dance of the Bantu people. It became distinct from other forms of rumba, such as yambu and columbia, in the mid-1800s. Usually danced by a male-female couple, it represents a flirtatious, sexual game and includes a distinctive body movement called vacunao (pelvic thrust) performed by the male dancer (also found in other African-based dances from Latin America).

                During a number, dancers, lead vocal and quinto interact in a complex manner:

                "The couple begins to dance -- the male dancer is more active as he circles around her without touching her. The dance climaxes as the male attempts to give the vacunao when the female is unprepared to avoid it. Much of her dancing expertise resides in her ability to entice the male while skillfully avoiding being touched by his vacunao." [2]
                Sorry but your wrong, Guaguanco is a sub-genre of CUBAN music. You guys need to get your **** straight...

                Don't come down here to Miami talking that **** about Guaguanco being PR because these Cubans would tell you different.

                Damn I'm Mexican and I know this ****...

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                • baya
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                  Come on man, that's insane. I will agree, that Norteno music is terrible, I'm with you on that. It's the country music of Mexico but Mexico has a rich tradition in music, so much so there is no country in Latin America that didn't grow up listening to Mexican music, including PR.

                  Especially the older gen, in PR they would always tell me, "I grew up litening to the Mexican greats and I loved it". I got that all the time in PR when I lived there.

                  Also, hate to tell you this bro but Guaguanco, salsa and all those rhythms aren't Puertorican, they are Cuban.

                  It's like in Mexico they love and play Cumbia but that **** isn't from Mexico......
                  don't get it confused - i didn't try and intimate that we birthed it, rather adopted it and ran with it - plena and bomba are indigenous to the island.

                  ionno like i said - when i hear it i feel like i'm going to be hit up by candid camera.

                  but again, we all have our opinions.

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