Why do ppl act like Floyd/Marquez is not legit fight?

[Doctor_Tenma]

The funny thing is that the same people bitching now, are the same people who bitched when they thought the fight was gonna take place at 147.

[RodBarker]

nah man I ain't gonna spend my time parsing up that whole post. use the quote button.

But I dont like pulling things out of context , you know what Im saying and you avoid the guts of the comments you cant even admit the fight weights of Floyd on the night or Pac or JMM or Cotto or Williams etc etc because when you admit what they really weigh you have no argument ,,,,,

JMM when weighing in at 130 135 steps into the ring on the night at 141-143 ,,,,, Floyd steps into the ring at 145-148 , JMM is accustomed to fighting above 140 lbs and has done so his last 3 fights .

That is the issue and its this what you ignore by constantly quoting weights they dont fight at that is just so dam crazy in a boxing discussion addressing merits of fighters while the information is freely available , the official weigh in was put into place because fighters trying to be bigger at the weight were fighting in a unsafe semi dehydrated state , so they thought give them 30 hrs to be fully hydrated , its all great with guys the same size but in todays ring with science and great fighters jumping divisions , the whole process is under a cloud and being manipulated by some to extreme limits where a fighter can gain 20 pounds by fight night .

To ignore this is when discussing a fighters size concerning a match up is ridicules .

[Pullcounter]

But I dont like pulling things out of context , you know what Im saying and you avoid the guts of the comments

no i don't

you cant even admit the fight weights of Floyd on the night or Pac or JMM or Cotto or Williams etc etc because when you admit what they really weigh you have no argument ,,,,,

yes, they weigh what they weigh on fight night, but jmm is untested in the WW division meaning he has never fought a WW (or as you would say someone who weights more than 147 lbs on fight night).

JMM when weighing in at 130 135 steps into the ring on the night at 141-143 ,,,,, Floyd steps into the ring at 145-148 , JMM is accustomed to fighting above 140 lbs and has done so his last 3 fights .

yes, but floyd has been fighting guys who weight 150+ lbs for many fights now and jmm hasn't.

That is the issue and its this what you ignore by constantly quoting weights they dont fight at

i acknowledge fight night weights, but there are also official weights. you must consider those as well.

that is just so dam crazy in a boxing discussion addressing merits of fighters while the information is freely available , the official weigh in was put into place because fighters trying to be bigger at the weight were fighting in a unsafe semi dehydrated state , so they thought give them 30 hrs to be fully hydrated , its all great with guys the same size but in todays ring with science and great fighters jumping divisions , the whole process is under a cloud and being manipulated by some to extreme limits where a fighter can gain 20 pounds by fight night .

true, but it is what it is and everyone abides by those rules...

To ignore this is when discussing a fighters size concerning a match up is ridicules .

i never ignored this.

[Boxing Scene]

Clottey? who the **** was Clottey prior to Floyd retiring, come to think of it who the hell is Clottey now? he is a nobody same with Williams.

Clottey was beating Margarito and probably beat Cotto too, Williams legitimately beat a cheater Margarito and wasn't hurt once in the fight, so both of those
guys are in the top 5.

[RodBarker]

no i don't


yes, they weigh what they weigh on fight night, but jmm is untested in the WW division meaning he has never fought a WW (or as you would say someone who weights more than 147 lbs on fight night).


yes, but floyd has been fighting guys who weight 150+ lbs for many fights now and jmm hasn't.


i acknowledge fight night weights, but there are also official weights. you must consider those as well.

true, but it is what it is and everyone abides by those rules...


i never ignored this.

You dont ignore it you dont acknowledge it , same horse different track .

You really are just going around in circles even though you are admitting Im right ,,,,,, because Floyd has been fighting bigger men doesnt mean JMM cant and he is not fighting a much bigger man this time , that is the point Floyd is only a little bigger than than JMM and Floyd is not a True WW so why handicap Floyd on one hand and then not give him any credit on the other for fighting such bigger men in the past because when he fights somebody near his real size he is a ***** , but when he beats a much bigger man he is not credited with that ,,,, you cannot say Floyd fighting a true WW and giving away 16 pounds is a fair fight and then turn around and say its unfair for Floyd vs JMM and Pac getting 2-6 pounds from one and equal weight with the other ,,,,,,, if Floyd dominates JMM its not because of weight

[Pullcounter]

You dont ignore it you dont acknowledge it , same horse different track .

actually that is a contradiction. you can't ignore something you acknowledge.

You really are just going around in circles even though you are admitting Im right ,,,,,,

no, I'm right. I never said there was no such thing as fight night weights.

because Floyd has been fighting bigger men doesnt mean JMM cant

I never said jmm can't. I'm saying JMM has never PERIOD. therefore JMM is unproven against bigger men.

and he is not fighting a much bigger man this time ,

doesn't matter. floyd has been beating bigger men. jmm hasn't.

that is the point Floyd is only a little bigger than than JMM

yeah, but jmm never campaigned in the WW division.

and Floyd is not a True WW

so then why not fight jmm at 140 lbs?

so why handicap Floyd on one hand and then not give him any credit on the other for fighting such bigger men in the past

floyd always get credit from me, so this is irrelevant.

because when he fights somebody near his real size he is a *****

if they are so close in size then why not fight at 140?

, but when he beats a much bigger man he is not credited with that ,,,,

i give him credit, you must mistake me for someone else.

you cannot say Floyd fighting a true WW and giving away 16 pounds is a fair fight and then turn around and say its unfair for Floyd vs JMM and Pac getting 2-6 pounds from one and equal weight with the other ,,,,,,,

pac/pbf is a fair fight because they both have fought at 135+ lbs.... their feet are wet.

jmm on the other hand is coming up without a tune up or a feeler fight to test how he will do at WW.

if Floyd dominates JMM its not because of weight

not weight, size.

[razor.thin]

because it isnt.

[Bhopreign]

not weight, skill.

Fixed it for ya.

[Roxas]

Cuz JMM ain't a WW. Pretty simple really.

1) Floyd and JMM are closer in size then Floyd and Paul a fight many wouldn't complain about seeing....

2) JMM started at Featherweight Floyd started at Super Featherweight there isn't much difference between the two naturally...


3) Pac tends to weigh around 147-148 on fight night Floyd will weigh between 148-150 on the Night gauranteed. Yet people will never complain about Pac being to Heavy for JMM.....

[Doctor_Tenma]

1) Floyd and JMM are closer in size then Floyd and Paul a fight many wouldn't complain about seeing....

2) JMM started at Featherweight Floyd started at Super Featherweight there isn't much difference between the two naturally...


3) Pac tends to weigh around 147-148 on fight night Floyd will weigh between 148-150 on the Night gauranteed. Yet people will never complain about Pac being to Heavy for JMM.....

Exactly, but no point, they don't listen.