Why do ppl act like Floyd/Marquez is not legit fight?

[Pullcounter]

Seriously why?

because its a mismatch.

Marquez came up to 135 and performed ****ing amazing KTFO of Casyamor and Diaz.

yeah, that's at 135 lbs, not WW.

Floyds walk around weight is about 147 he comes in for fights vs Hatton, Judah, Baldo etc at 147 or so fight night. He is obviously not THAT big

that's too big for jmm.

i swear if he and Pac ever face off the tale of the tape wont differ much.

jmm is not pac.

The fight is taking place at 144 at max Floyd is putting on 3 pounds or maybe even nothing come fight night, Marquez bulks up a little could hit round 140 or so and not lose much speed. So coem fight night u got a few pounds difference.

jmm has zero fights above 135 lbs. at most jmm can fight at 140 lbs. WW is too big for jmm to jump to.

Meanwhile another big fight between Cotto/Pac the difference come fight night will be way more with Pac at 147 or so and Cotto at 160. But this is fine because?

it's not. cotto and his stans are counting on that for victory so they aren't saying anything about it.

i mean people say Pac is the favourite for the fight too.

all i gotta say is arum is a mind controller.

Is it because Mayweather is just so good? and Cotto and Marquez arent?

obviously pbf > cotto / jmm.

honestly if Pac is able to beat Cotto with such a difference in weight, why cant Marquez beat Floyd?

cause at least pac has fought above 135 2x while jmm has fought above 135 0x.

[RodBarker]

Wit all the recycled threads on the 2 big catchweight fights comin up, how the fuck are there still cats who can't comprehend that 141-147 is WW?

because its a mismatch.


yeah, that's at 135 lbs, not WW.


that's too big for jmm.


jmm is not pac.


jmm has zero fights above 135 lbs. at most jmm can fight at 140 lbs. WW is too big for jmm to jump to.


it's not. cotto and his stans are counting on that for victory so they aren't saying anything about it.

all i gotta say is arum is a mind controller.


obviously pbf > cotto / jmm.



cause at least pac has fought above 135 2x while jmm has fought above 135 0x.

You really dont what your talking about , are you gunna run from me again or you want to debate size and weight .

And why cant you comprehend that on the night the more important fighting weight JMM fights at is around 142-143 and Floyd fights at around 147-148 and Pac fights at 147 ,, as far as weight goes JMM vs Floyd is a pretty fair fight , much more so than Cotto vs Pac or Floyd vs Cotto or Williams or Mosley , and there lays the travesty in this because you fools are condemning this fight on weight and thats is WRONG , a fighter is what he is give or take a few pounds , whether he drys out to 130 135 or 140 he will still rehydrate to his natural weight that he fights at , eg JMM Pac and Floyd all fight between 142-148 whether they weigh-in at 130 135 140 147 even in Floyds case 154 yet still was 148 on the night , you are the size you are .

JMM vs Floyd is an excellant fight , if Floyd dominates it has nothing to do with the few pounds he will have , although every pound is an advantage this fight is well within the realms of a fair fight size wise , you fellas that are bagging the fight are only doing it to hate on Floyd and thats obvious .

[Pullcounter]

You really dont what your talking about

yeah i do

, are you gunna run from me again or you want to debate size and weight .

when did i ever run?

And why cant you comprehend that on the night the more important fighting weight JMM fights at is around 142-143 and Floyd fights at around 147-148 and Pac fights at 147

why can't you comprehend that jmm has 0 fights above 135 lbs.

,, as far as weight goes JMM vs Floyd is a pretty fair fight , much more so than Cotto vs Pac or Floyd vs Cotto or Williams or Mosley ,

yes, but JMM is unproven above 135 lbs.

and there lays the travesty in this because you fools are condemning this fight on weight and thats is WRONG

nope, what's wrong is for a WW to pick on a LW when there are plenty of WWs around.

, a fighter is what he is give or take a few pounds , whether he drys out to 130 135 or 140 he will still rehydrate to his natural weight that he fights at , eg JMM Pac and Floyd all fight between 142-148 whether they weigh-in at 130 135 140 147 even in Floyds case 154 yet still was 148 on the night , you are the size you are .

so you are saying we should abolish weight divisions?

JMM vs Floyd is an excellant fight

it's a tune up.

, if Floyd dominates it has nothing to do with the few pounds he will have

the # doesn't matter, its what the # represents. pbf is too big too strong for jmm.

, although every pound is an advantage this fight is well within the realms of a fair fight size wise

EXACTLY!

, you fellas that are bagging the fight are only doing it to hate on Floyd and thats obvious .

nah man, i wanted floyd to make this fight, but at 140 lbs.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Just because he had 0 fights above 135 means its a total mismatch? Pac had 0 fights above 135 before he went on to dominate Hoya and KTFO Hatton. Marquez has KO the best at 135 guys who have never been knocked out i see no reason why he cant come in at 140 or so and fight Floyd who would be 144-147.

Its just Floyd is that good would be the reason he cant make up for the 4-7 pound loss? i think its possible he can but like i said i got Floyd for this fight. Its not a huge weight diff is what im saying anyway if Marquez brings it and has the skills he can trouble Floyd. If he loses it wont be down to weight

I agree Floyd is a different class compared to Cotto tho

[fightfan_79]

JJM can throw straight up bombs if you saw his last few fights i dont think him gaining 5 pounds will dramatically slow him either. Had Casyamyor ever been KO prior to Marquez? im not sure dont think so tho, Diaz never was but he was young.

Marquez's optimal fight weight is what? 130/135lbs right? Judge from his past performances....against Casamayor and Diaz...Do you think that Marquez's speed in those two fights will be enough to deal with Floyd? So Marquez is going to throw bombs at Floyd? I think Hatton had the same idea...and look where it got him.....Marquez will need to wind up to throw that kind of power against Floyd and Floyd will time him perfectly. Counterpunching? Floyd has him bested in that department too. Floyd's straight rights and inside short uppercuts will land all night long....

I see this fight ending up like the Gatti fight....IF FLOYD GOES OUT THERE AND DOES WHAT HE IS SUPPOSE TO DO.....

[RodBarker]

yeah i do

No you dont because you dont understand weight and the way it is manipulated for a 30 hr dried out weight only to go back up to where they started from and then fight , and you judge them on a weight that they dont fight at , how ***en ridicules is that , you ignore the weight they actually fight at lol and profess to know what your talking about , god dam !.


when did i ever run?

Everyday I ask you about real weight and you avoid it like the plague


why can't you comprehend that jmm has 0 fights above 135 lbs.

He has fought above 135 every time he steps into the ring , that is the point REAL FIGHTING WEIGHT , why dont you acknowledge the weight they fight at


yes, but JMM is unproven above 135 lbs.

Read above slowly


nope, what's wrong is for a WW to pick on a LW when there are plenty of WWs around.

Again why do you ignore real fighting weight when its the most important weight when discussing a fight , cant you see how ****** dried out weight is in terms of a fighters performance on the night , Floyd is not a true WW its as obvious as the nose on your face but you keep on like a parrot looking for a cracker .


so you are saying we should abolish weight divisions?

No just make them fight within it


it's a tune up.

Thats a hate driven comment that is rubbishing JMM , or it could be taken that Floyd is that good , which way are you flip flopping ?


the # doesn't matter, its what the # represents. pbf is too big too strong for jmm.

So 4-6 pounds is to much , yet you expect Floyd to give the WWs such as Mosley Cotto Williams Margo 12 to 16 ? you cant see your obvious contradiction


EXACTLY!

Glad you agreed on this being a fair fight because it throws your whole argument out the window


nah man, i wanted floyd to make this fight, but at 140 lbs.

Why they will still step in the same weight that they will here , Floyd is small and can make 140 unlike the WWs you want him to fight , again you show you ignorance to real weight and size

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[fightfan_79]

Fight isnt at WW as someone said and Floyd is not a full blow welter either, ****ing Cotto/Mosley are thats why the come in at 160 fight night. Floyd on the other hand walks around at 147 and comes in at 147. [COLOR="Blue"]If Marquez comes up a few more pounds and doesn't lose much speed this could be a very very good fight and weight/size wise there wont be much diff.[/COLOR]
Do you think Cotto/Pac is a complete mismatch cus Pac aint a WW too? and Cotto is a ****ing massive one (unlike Floyd). Cause most ppl dont and Pac is heavy betting Favourite? like i said is it simply Floyd is damn good and Cotto is not?

Cause Marquez allready proved he is Pacs equal

Last I checked 141-147lbs was the Welterweight Division. And what division has Floyd been campaigning in previous to him taking a Leave of Absence?

Very true...if Marquez was fighting Baldomir....but he's not.

Not a complete mis-match because Cotto's main advantage is his power/weight. Mostly all other factors favor Pacquiao....speed, conditioning, offensive ability. But Cotto being a legit WW should be able to KO Pacquiao...if he can catch him.

[Pullcounter]

Just because he had 0 fights above 135 means its a total mismatch?

yes

Pac had 0 fights above 135 before he went on to dominate Hoya

yep and dlh deservedly got mad **** for it.

and KTFO Hatton.

well, once he fought at 147 lbs coming down to 140 is no big deal.

Marquez has KO the best at 135 guys who have never been knocked out

actually campbell was the best guy at 135 as he beat and ruined diaz before jmm did and casamayor was ducking campbell.

i see no reason why he cant come in at 140 or so and fight Floyd who would be 144-147.

the close to 140 lbs the official weigh in weight is, the more fair it is to jmm.

Its just Floyd is that good would be the reason he cant make up for the 4-7 pound loss?

no, floyd is too big. their skill levels imho is comparable.

i think its possible he can but like i said i got Floyd for this fight.

who don't have floyd? floyd is too big.

Its not a huge weight diff is what im saying

I never said it was.

anyway if Marquez brings it and has the skills he can trouble Floyd.

yeah, but jmm will be sacrificing strength and speed moving up. floyd sacrifices nothing.

If he loses it wont be down to weight

not weight, size.

I agree Floyd is a different class compared to Cotto tho

true, cotto is a big dude.

[RodBarker]

Last I checked 141-147lbs was the Welterweight Division. And what division has Floyd been campaigning in previous to him taking a Leave of Absence?

Very true...if Marquez was fighting Baldomir....but he's not.

Not a complete mis-match because Cotto's main advantage is his power/weight. Mostly all other factors favor Pacquiao....speed, conditioning, offensive ability. But Cotto being a legit WW should be able to KO Pacquiao...if he can catch him.

One question for you , what weight does JMM step in the ring on fight night and what weight does Floyd ,,,, 141-143 vs 145-148 there is your answer !!

[Pullcounter]

yeah i do

No you dont because you dont understand weight and the way it is manipulated for a 30 hr dried out weight only to go back up to where they started from and then fight , and you judge them on a weight that they dont fight at , how ***en ridicules is that , you ignore the weight they actually fight at lol and profess to know what your talking about , god dam !.


when did i ever run?

Everyday I ask you about real weight and you avoid it like the plague


why can't you comprehend that jmm has 0 fights above 135 lbs.

He has fought above 135 every time he steps into the ring , that is the point REAL FIGHTING WEIGHT , why dont you acknowledge the weight they fight at


yes, but JMM is unproven above 135 lbs.

Read above slowly


nope, what's wrong is for a WW to pick on a LW when there are plenty of WWs around.

Again why do you ignore real fighting weight when its the most important weight when discussing a fight , cant you see how ****** dried out weight is in terms of a fighters performance on the night , Floyd is not a true WW its as obvious as the nose on your face but you keep on like a parrot looking for a cracker .


so you are saying we should abolish weight divisions?

No just make them fight within it


it's a tune up.

Thats a hate driven comment that is rubbishing JMM , or it could be taken that Floyd is that good , which way are you flip flopping ?


the # doesn't matter, its what the # represents. pbf is too big too strong for jmm.

So 4-6 pounds is to much , yet you expect Floyd to give the WWs such as Mosley Cotto Williams Margo 12 to 16 ? you cant see your obvious contradiction


EXACTLY!

Glad you agreed on this being a fair fight because it throws your whole argument out the window


nah man, i wanted floyd to make this fight, but at 140 lbs.

Why they will still step in the same weight that they will here , Floyd is small and can make 140 unlike the WWs you want him to fight , again you show you ignorance to real weight and size

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i ain't gonna respond unless you quote it up. i don't wanna waste time parsing the bold from the non-bold.