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  • roademier
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    #31
    Originally posted by archiemoore1
    It's hard for me to imagine too many past greats (Ike Williams, Beau Jack, Charley Burley, archie moore, ezzard charles, curtis cokes, harold johnson, hopkins, hagler, Ali, duran, etc) saying they weren't interested in fighting someone else in their weight division. I mean, Ray Leonard ducked Aaron Pryor, but not too many of the great ones made a habit out of ducking other fighters. They had too much pride, and too much respect for the sport and the fans. They fought for glory and legacy as much as for money. Too many guys today are only trying to fight certain fighters, while avoiding others. This diva-like behavior waters down boxing and deprives fans who pay hard earned money to support these fighters, of seeing the best fight the best. And it also produces inferior, less seasoned fighters because it limits the competition, and limits the activity level of a modern fighters career. Meanwhile, the few throwbacks who truly want to fight any and everybody, like David Benavidez, and Jaron Ennis, are left waiting for somebody with balls to step up, while the rest fight more on the internet than they do in the ring
    Leonard did not duck Pryor.
    They were never in the same weight class to begin with.
    How this rumor gets perpetuated is ridiculous.

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    • pugil1st
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      #32
      Thurman should retire. He doesn't want to fight anymore.

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      • factsarenice
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        #33
        Lets be honest...Nobody knows Ortiz or Ennis. They show promise but they're virtually unknown to the public, they don't draw, don't have belts and they are years from paying out like Crawford,Porter or Garcia.

        The real question is...Why fight either guy, what's the point?

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        • factsarenice
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          #34
          Originally posted by landotter

          You know, I kind of get that sense too. He just does not seem to love the challenge of the sport anymore. He is just sitting around talking about how everyone wants to fight him but he only wants champs. That feels half-hearted. You have to be so self-motivated for individual sports, but the love of the battle has to be included in combat sports.

          I see him cashing out in one more fight, losing, and moving on. He is intelligent enough the options for him to stay in boxing in some capacity will be there. He just is not a boxer anymore.
          Keith doesn't live for boxing, he does it for the money and there is no money in it, simple as that. Errol Spence won't fight them either of them and I guarantee you nobody will say a word.

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          • RightJabLikeZab
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            #35
            Originally posted by roademier

            Leonard did not duck Pryor.
            They were never in the same weight class to begin with.
            How this rumor gets perpetuated is ridiculous.
            Right. Pryor actually rejected the fight twice trying to get more money.

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            • factsarenice
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              #36
              Originally posted by VashDBasher

              The new age mentality of fighters is really hurting the sport. Some of the fans are at fault too. They support this and are completely fine with it.
              Right on...Keith is just doing what every PBC fighter does and it seems to have caught on throughout the entire industry.

              It's the new way the game is played and nobody notices until it's their guy on the outside. Hell, it seems to be the way of America these days.

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              • factsarenice
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                #37
                Originally posted by Boricua181
                Keith Thurman isn't interested in Vergil Ortiz, of course not because he might get his ass knocked out.
                Keith Thurman hasn't ever heard of Jaron Ennis, the fact is he doesn't want to hear anything about him,
                because he knows that Jaron Ennis would knock him out.
                Keith Thurman has become one of the biggest bull**** artist's in boxing, I'm surprised someone hasn't
                flushed him down the toilet already.
                He thinks that he's still relevant in the world of boxing, but he's not, he's irrelevant at this point in time.
                Neither Ortiz or Boots can guarantee Thurman 3 million, not sure either draw enough to generate 3 million combined. That said, why would Keith be remotely interested in fighting either for peanuts when he can fight Porter, Garcia or Crawford for many times more? I mean what's the point, does either even have a belt?

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                • factsarenice
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                  #38
                  The REAL question is why would Keith even consider fighting Ennis or Ortiz, were is the incentive?

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                  • Oldskoolg
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                    #39
                    Thurman’s last fight was what a couple of years ago and he lost. Not sure what he thinks he’s entitled to

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                    • Boxingfanatic75
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by archiemoore1
                      It's hard for me to imagine too many past greats (Ike Williams, Beau Jack, Charley Burley, archie moore, ezzard charles, curtis cokes, harold johnson, hopkins, hagler, Ali, duran, etc) saying they weren't interested in fighting someone else in their weight division. I mean, Ray Leonard ducked Aaron Pryor, but not too many of the great ones made a habit out of ducking other fighters. They had too much pride, and too much respect for the sport and the fans. They fought for glory and legacy as much as for money. Too many guys today are only trying to fight certain fighters, while avoiding others. This diva-like behavior waters down boxing and deprives fans who pay hard earned money to support these fighters, of seeing the best fight the best. And it also produces inferior, less seasoned fighters because it limits the competition, and limits the activity level of a modern fighters career. Meanwhile, the few throwbacks who truly want to fight any and everybody, like David Benavidez, and Jaron Ennis, are left waiting for somebody with balls to step up, while the rest fight more on the internet than they do in the ring
                      Breadman covered extensively the rumored Pryor/SRL “duck.” He did so with historical facts and pinpoint accuracy and actually thinks highly of both boxers. We need to put to bed that SRL “ducked” Pryor. Yes as unfortunate as it was to never have seen that fight it wasn’t someone ducking another. It was simply a series of tragedies that never allowed the two to meet.

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