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  • rrayvez
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    #111
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    Let's start with the fact that he's won titles at 154, 160, 168, and 175.. How many fighters have done that? If he becomes UNDISPUTED @ 168, how many other fighters have done that? Lastly, if he beat Charlo, Spence, and Benavidez, after becoming undisputed @ 168, at a minimum, he's on the Roberto Duran, JCC Sr. level! And yes, I would even put him on the Mayweather, Ali, level as well!
    nah, now you wanna put a whole bunch of “ifs” in your statement. You said he was on par with those other legends currently so scrap all that if he does this and if he fights these guys because those are hypotheticals and haven’t happened. So back to what he’s done, oh he’s a 4 division champion. So is Adrien Broner. That’s not the big deal it used to be and doesn’t automatically put you on par with actual legends. Look at who he beat for his belts, Matthew hatton, trout, Liam smith, Cotto, ggg, Kovalev, fielding, jacobs, Callum smith, and Saunders. The 3 best names on that list were all exactly 36 years old when he beat them and one of those wins were as controversial as it gets. Take out those 3 names and those title wins are average. But sure, put him on par with Muhammad Ali. SMH. It’s cool if you’re a canelo fan but try and have some dignity as a boxing fan.

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    • buddyr
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      #112
      Originally posted by Dizneyfist

      Andrade has been calling for all that smoke at 160. Noone is picking up. Hearn had to announce that he's available and vulnerable even willing to take a pay cut just to get someone of relevance in there but champions are not biting. I feel bad for only two fighters and that's Andrade and Haney even though Haney's still in the pubescent stage of his pro career. Make that three TC too.
      Andrade had a fight lined up with Jermell Charlo, but pulled out due to money. Whose fault was that? Doesn't make sense that he'd take a pay cut now, but pulled out of a fight for money dispute. He only has himself to blame. The saunders fight wasn't his fault though. When there is a guy like this that no one wants to fight, he has to remain active. Can't sit around crying that no one wants to fight you. You've got Derevchenko, Eubank, Mungia, and he can even drop his bs WBO title and move up to be the #1 contender. That would force Canelo to face him. The problem is that he thinks with his 30-0 record of bull****, it entitles him to be a ppv star. There are enough fights out there to be made. Yeah, I feel Canelo is avoiding him to a degree, but these guys from 160-175 got to stop chasing one man and find their own way. 3 divisions on standby for ONE MAN!!!!! None of the top guys are fighting each other waiting for a pay day. Canelo is doing the right thing by unifying 168(a real ****ty division), but what is everyone else doing? Why couldn't Benavidez get his fat azz into shape to keep his belt? Why haven't Plant and Benevidez fought? They've been flapping their gums for 3 goddamn years!!!!!!!!

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      • El_Maldito_Rey
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        #113
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Let's start with the fact that he's won titles at 154, 160, 168, and 175.. How many fighters have done that? If he becomes UNDISPUTED @ 168, how many other fighters have done that? Lastly, if he beat Charlo, Spence, and Benavidez, after becoming undisputed @ 168, at a minimum, he's on the Roberto Duran, JCC Sr. level! And yes, I would even put him on the Mayweather, Ali, level as well!
        LOL, Duran and JCC Sr are levels above Mayweather.

        The only Ali that Mayweather is on the level with is Terrence Ali.

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        • Bronx2245
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          #114
          Originally posted by Themanager

          Don’t get too excited. He’s not fighting Benavides (unless Benavides gets beat up for a few years first !)
          Benavidez blew his load on coke and food! That's why he's not getting a fight with Canelo! Hopefully he stays in the gym, stays on weight, and gets another title shot! I know he has to be salty, but he has only himself to blame! Benavidez vs. Morrell Jr.! MAN UP!

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          • Bronx2245
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            #115
            Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey

            LOL, Duran and JCC Sr are levels above Mayweather.

            The only Ali that Mayweather is on the level with is Terrence Ali.
            I meant Mayweather in terms of financial success! Duran and JCC Sr. were both warriors! However ******* is a hell of drug! Lol! I can never forget "No Mas," and the Pernell Whitaker ROBBERY!

            Chavez vs Whitaker: Anatomy of a robbery


            Chavez vs Whitaker unofficial scorecards
            • AP: 116-112 Whitaker
            • Newsday: 116-112 Whitaker
            • RING Magazine: 117-111 Whitaker
            • Sports Illustrated: 117-111 Whitaker
            https://www.fightsaga.com/fightsaga/...was-the-fix-in



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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #116
              Originally posted by Doubledagger

              Typical troll quick to jump to assumptions.

              Even if I was scared for Spence (I'm not), I would be justified because common sense dictates that a welterweight cannot in their right mind jump to 168lbs. That's three divisions.

              Stylistically Spence has the style to beat Canelo, but there are weight classes for a reason.
              Lol. LDBC kids skurrred. “Common sense.” What LDBC kids lack…

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                #117
                Originally posted by Dizneyfist

                This is Reynoso's choices. Doesn't necessarily mean Canelo is looking that route. I heard other sources saying Canelo is looking at the prospects of moving up to 175 to face Beterbeiv. I believe if Beterbeiv unifies all titles that fight could be a reality.
                Yes, I've heard that rumor too.


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                • Pac=Duran
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                  Jermall Charlo's wish may come true. Immediately following Canelo Alvarez's crushing stoppage win over Billy Joe Saunders on May 8, the WBC middleweight champion Charlo called out the pound-for-pound king on social media even when the Mexican superstar made it clear that he wanted to become undisputed at 168 pounds and next fight IBF titlist Caleb Plant.
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                  Canelo will have an ATG resume after he is done.

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                  • champion4ever
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Dizneyfist

                    I doubt Canelo will move down under the recent circumstances. If Charlo takes another title the fight can happen. If Mall either gets three titles or unifies all belts I can see Canelo meeting at a catch weight. Right now Canelo and everyone else is ducking Andrade. If Mall had the gull to sign the contract against Andrade 30/70 in Mall's favor and happen to win it would be a mile stone and look much more intriguing since Andrade"s been a thorn on Canelo's side.
                    I know Canelo has ducked them both; Especially Jermall Charlo once he accepted that WBC Franchise Championship belt. Where was his Mexican pride, honour and warrior's heart for accepting a title belt that he did not earn? He received that bogus title belt for ducking Jermall Charlo with gladness.

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                    • El_Maldito_Rey
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      I know Canelo has ducked them both; Especially Jermall Charlo once he accepted that WBC Franchise Championship belt. Where was his Mexican pride, honour and warrior's heart for accepting a title belt that he did not earn? He received that bogus title belt for ducking Jermall Charlo with gladness.
                      Canelo ducked no one. Fighting GGG ONCE is a greater feat and accomplishment than fighting both Charlo and Andrade.

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