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  • keepthemhandsup
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    #91
    wait....who the hell is the last one

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    • syphillis
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      #92
      Originally posted by King Flawless
      Are you literally that fickle??? If someone can make a lower weight, it makes they can dehydrate themselves well. Don't Pacman fans claim he was dehydrated against JMM at 130.

      For example

      Remember Hopkins -RJJ argument on TV. Roy Jones said he was the bigger guy. Hopkins laughed at that. Why, because Hopkins knew he was bigger than RJJ. The only difference was Hopkins could make 160, and RJJ couldn't. But Hopkins was bigger.

      Pacman at 130 fight night, weighs the same as PBF fight night at ww.. They also weigh the exact same as WW fighters as well
      Just curious, where in boxing rule book does it say how much a fighter can weigh in come fight night? I thought it only matters that both fighters make below or equal to the agreed weight limit.

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      • King Flawless
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        #93
        Originally posted by syphillis
        Just curious, where in boxing rule book does it say how much a fighter can weigh in come fight night? I thought it only matters that both fighters make below or equal to the agreed weight limit.
        IBF have a limit on how many pounds a fighter can rehydrate.

        If JMM could handle a WW Pacman, did he should have no problem fighting a WW Mayweather coming off a 2 year lay off

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          #94
          Originally posted by King Flawless
          Are you literally that fickle??? If someone can make a lower weight, it makes they can dehydrate themselves well. Don't Pacman fans claim he was dehydrated against JMM at 130.

          For example

          Remember Hopkins -RJJ argument on TV. Roy Jones said he was the bigger guy. Hopkins laughed at that. Why, because Hopkins knew he was bigger than RJJ. The only difference was Hopkins could make 160, and RJJ couldn't. But Hopkins was bigger.

          Pacman at 130 fight night, weighs the same as PBF fight night at ww.. They also weigh the exact same as WW fighters as well
          So what you're saying is... the Pac that fought at 130lbs against Marquez, is the same size as Floyd who fights at 147?

          Simply because on fight night they weigh the same?


          So you're saying on Friday.... Pac weighs in at 130lbs... and is SEVENTEEN POUNDS less than Floyd... but SATURDAY, he comes in at 145lbs, and is the SAME size...

          Why? Because he ATE and drank water... so NOW he's the same size as Floyd.

          So the James Toney who fought Rahman, and the Wlad Klitschko who fought Ibragimov... are really the same size.


          Who is bigger? James Toney or Wlad Klitschko?

          They weigh the same... right?
          Last edited by THE REED; 09-03-2009, 08:48 PM.

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            #95
            IBF have a limit on how many pounds a fighter can rehydrate.
            What is the limit?

            If JMM could handle a WW Pacman, did he should have no problem fighting a WW Mayweather coming off a 2 year lay off
            This is a tuneup fight, right?

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              #96
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              So what you're saying is... the Pac that fought at 130lbs against Marquez, is the same size as Floyd who fights at 147?

              Simply because on fight night they weigh more?


              So you're saying on Friday.... Pac weighs in at 130lbs... and is SEVENTEEN POUNDS less than Floyd... but SATURDAY, he comes in at 145lbs, and is the SAME size...

              Why? Because he ATE and drank water... so NOW he's the same size as Floyd.

              So the James Toney who fought Rahman, and the Wlad Klitschko who fought Ibragimov... are really the same size.


              Who is bigger? James Toney or Wlad Klitschko?

              They weigh the same... right?
              Are you that ***ing fickle as Mangler.

              Pacman didn't just eat and drink some water to gain 15 pounds. Before the weigh in, Pacman drained himself. They drain like 7 pounds of water. Pacman walks around the exact same weight as Floyd and weighs the same as Floyd at WW even when at SFW.

              Pacman fight night is a WW. Floyd fight night is a WW. How are they NOT the same size. The difference is Pacman is willingly to drain himself, while Floyd isn't.

              Wladmir is 100% muscle, while Toney is all fat. Pacman and Floyd are 100% muscle and weight the exact same.

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                #97
                Originally posted by syphillis
                What is the limit?



                This is a tuneup fight, right?
                A boxer cannot come 10 pounds over the weight limit.


                JMM is not a tune-up. Its a tough fight for PBF.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by King Flawless
                  Are you that ***ing fickle as Mangler.

                  Pacman didn't just eat and drink some water to gain 15 pounds. Before the weigh in, Pacman drained himself. They drain like 7 pounds of water. Pacman walks around the exact same weight as Floyd and weighs the same as Floyd at WW even when at SFW.

                  Pacman fight night is a WW. Floyd fight night is a WW. How are they NOT the same size. The difference is Pacman is willingly to drain himself, while Floyd isn't.

                  Wladmir is 100% muscle, while Toney is all fat. Pacman and Floyd are 100% muscle and weight the exact same.

                  First of all, you can calm your ass down with the name calling.

                  Second of all, So Pacmans 100% pure muscle... just like floyd... but hes DRAINING 15 pounds of water and muscle .... and then putting ALL THAT muscle back on Saturday?

                  Straight up... I dont think Floyd can make 130lbs... if you do, then that's an opinion we arent going to agree on.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    First of all, you can calm your ass down with the name calling.

                    Second of all, So Pacmans 100% pure muscle... just like floyd... but hes DRAINING 15 pounds of water and muscle .... and then putting ALL THAT muscle back on Saturday?

                    Straight up... I dont think Floyd can make 130lbs... if you do, then that's an opinion we arent going to agree on.
                    Pacman can't make 135 now. Roach even stated this.

                    JMM fought Pacman who fight night weight was 145. Floyd fight night weight is also around this, and JMM should not have nay excuses. Since himself was 140 fight night at 135.

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                      #100
                      I'm not saying I completly agree but Flawless does make a decent aguement this time. I never thought of it but JMM did pretty well against a Pac that was 145. The only thing with that though is Pac had to drain himself to make weight witch may take some power away even though he comes back up to 145. Pac fighting at 140lbs is more likely to be stronger even if he weighs the same as he did in the past just because now he is not draining himself so much. Anyways this is a great debate,....carry on.

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