Is Virgil Hunter a top trainer?

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  • asgarth
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boxing-1013
    I don't really think you can teach any style to every fighter. Ward's style especially was kind of his own. He was just a tough smart guy who would get as rough and dirty as needed to muck up rounds. That is more innate vs taught I think
    I dont mean to just copy ward. But there are certain things that are teachable that doesnt need elite level talent to slow down the pace.
    He was always responding with counters and traded whenever davis was letting his hands go. There is time for that, but if he wants to pace a 12 round fight he should have occasionally slip the first punch and then step in, smother and tie up.

    Davis would then have to work his way to close range again and he could win seconds on the outside with some keep jabs and tying to catch him coming in.

    comparison would be how cotto adapted in the rematch. Instead of getting moved around every second of the fight, he tied up regularly in the second half to keep margarito from bullying him.

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    • War Room
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      #12
      Originally posted by asgarth
      Knowing that hunter brought up ward, I would have expected that he taught more craftyness to Barrios. Teach him how to shut down his opponents offense like Ward always did.

      He was forced to move around and work hard whenever Tank was in walking down mode. Stayed at the end of the power, barely smothered davis work and should have picked more moments to put davis on the backfoot.

      It was a very one note gameplan and they should have adjusted the minute he wasnt able to range control davis properly with his jab.
      No, he's not that good. he had one guy, like ever.

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      • MONGOOSE66
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        #13
        Imagine, weight class and age aside, a guy like Lara fighting tank. That’s all u have to do with Tank. Tank will never catch a guy like Lara period. It would be boring but it would shut down what Tank likes to do. It’s not rocket science. A guy like Barrios is to flat footed to beat Tank. This is why they avoid any boxers with great legs.

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        • Boxing-1013
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          #14
          Originally posted by asgarth

          I dont mean to just copy ward. But there are certain things that are teachable that doesnt need elite level talent to slow down the pace.
          He was always responding with counters and traded whenever davis was letting his hands go. There is time for that, but if he wants to pace a 12 round fight he should have occasionally slip the first punch and then step in, smother and tie up.

          Davis would then have to work his way to close range again and he could win seconds on the outside with some keep jabs and tying to catch him coming in.

          comparison would be how cotto adapted in the rematch. Instead of getting moved around every second of the fight, he tied up regularly in the second half to keep margarito from bullying him.
          I think a trainer largely has to work with what he has

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          • _Rexy_
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            #15
            I dunno, but BoMack looked like he was going to have a ****ing heart attack from walking up those ring steps. Jesus christ he's a fat ****. I wouldn't be surprised if they have to cut his legs off in the next few weeks.

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            • YoungManRumble
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              #16
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              I dunno, but BoMack looked like he was going to have a ****ing heart attack from walking up those ring steps. Jesus christ he's a fat ****. I wouldn't be surprised if they have to cut his legs off in the next few weeks.

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              • Finito2K
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                #17
                No. He was only as good as Andre Ward. Which would explain why he still hasn't found much success as a trainer since Ward retired.

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