Is Virgil Hunter a top trainer?

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  • asgarth
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    #1

    Is Virgil Hunter a top trainer?

    Knowing that hunter brought up ward, I would have expected that he taught more craftyness to Barrios. Teach him how to shut down his opponents offense like Ward always did.

    He was forced to move around and work hard whenever Tank was in walking down mode. Stayed at the end of the power, barely smothered davis work and should have picked more moments to put davis on the backfoot.

    It was a very one note gameplan and they should have adjusted the minute he wasnt able to range control davis properly with his jab.
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    #2
    hunter usually has the underdog in a lot of big fights and they usually lose

    barrios didnt hold on a single time after he was dropped, which made for an exciting fight but is a terrible habit to have

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      #3
      Originally posted by elfag
      hunter usually has the underdog in a lot of big fights and they usually lose

      barrios didnt hold on a single time after he was dropped, which made for an exciting fight but is a terrible habit to have
      Yh I dont like clinching as a fan, but it was silly to not work on keeping davis from getting into a rhythm. They just trusted barrios to keep him off with his length for 12 rounds?

      Barrios had the same problem with akhmedov and was drawn into a lot of exchanges. Unnecessary and also a pretty bad look that they didnt learn that much from that fight.

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      • tritium_arma
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        #4
        Originally posted by asgarth

        Yh I dont like clinching as a fan, but it was silly to not work on keeping davis from getting into a rhythm. They just trusted barrios to keep him off with his length for 12 rounds?

        Barrios had the same problem with akhmedov and was drawn into a lot of exchanges. Unnecessary and also a pretty bad look that they didnt learn that much from that fight.
        The corner was screaming to hold a lot of times when he was hurt. He just didn't listen.

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        • GreatMalenko
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          #5
          The clenching this is weird but most of what I saw were physical limitations that no trainer would be able to address. Trying to make a tough but basic guy box like Loma would only confuse him. So I think Hunter did the best he could with what he had.

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          • YoungManRumble
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            #6
            Seemed better than morbidly obese Bomack who wasn't even realizing what hand was battering his fighter and looked like he didn't care what happened to Brant...

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            • asgarth
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              #7
              Originally posted by YoungManRumble
              Seemed better than morbidly obese Bomack who wasn't even realizing what hand was battering his fighter and looked like he didn't care what happened to Brant...
              Yeah when I taped brant he was suddenly an in and out kind of guy with no killer instinct in his last fight. And pulled back in straight lines.
              I thought old brant had a very small chance, but that bo mac version basically had zero chance.

              Very awful corner.

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              • Boxing-1013
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                #8
                I don't really think you can teach any style to every fighter. Ward's style especially was kind of his own. He was just a tough smart guy who would get as rough and dirty as needed to muck up rounds. That is more innate vs taught I think

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                • Earl-Hickey
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                  Barrios is just a typical Latino with no survival skills except block punches with his face and trying to fight back like an idiot.

                  Hunter can't change that.

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                  • MONGOOSE66
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by asgarth
                    Knowing that hunter brought up ward, I would have expected that he taught more craftyness to Barrios. Teach him how to shut down his opponents offense like Ward always did.

                    He was forced to move around and work hard whenever Tank was in walking down mode. Stayed at the end of the power, barely smothered davis work and should have picked more moments to put davis on the backfoot.

                    It was a very one note gameplan and they should have adjusted the minute he wasnt able to range control davis properly with his jab.
                    Can’t teach “talent” unfortunately. U also can’t teach to people who aren’t “awake” in the ring. They go into “cruise control” mode. Those type DONT ADJUST. .

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