Comments Thread For: Wilder Says a 'Lack of Loyalty' Led To Rematch Loss To Tyson Fury

[1hourRun]

not a snake in the grass, you ****ing moron

As Andre Dirrell said, he was taking too much punishment and there was nothing he could do. Wilder is delusional and you are too.

I know that this confession by Andre Dirrell is unsettling news. I remember how for months Wilder's opposition pro-Fury fans denied and dismissed shocking reports by Wilder's camp to the media regarding Mark Breland giving into his ties with Sugar-Hill and the KRONK gym. Incidentally, the Dirrell brothers were apart of said faction. Now we here Andre Dirrell confirm what the Bombsquad said a long, that Kronk gym/Tyson's group had influenced Mark Breland on February 22, 2020.

As I mentioned in my original post, real investigative journalism is not granted to Deontay Wilder's ''allegations'', in spite supporting eye-witness accounts, video evidence and Tyson's history of doping and glove tampering.

Those that stand on the side of truth are always in the minority.

[Zelda]

The best thing Wilder can and should be doing right now is STFU and concentrate on his training.

[Liondw]

The objective viewer can see there was no evidence of cheating whatsoever. Wilder was beaten up every round and cannot accept he lost.

[springfiels]

In fact since watching Fury punch himself in the face a good 10 years ago, can't think of a more improved fighter and I'm not a diehard fanboy of his or hater of Wilder by any means.

To be honest, I'd watch Wilder fight every week, not for the sweet science, just for the entertainment value. Bit like watching an 80's action movie, you don't have to think about it, just sit back and enjoy.

Massively agree with both the above comments.

Earlier on in his career, especially after the Chisora and Cunningham fights, I would've confidently argued that Fury was a KO waiting to happen. He always got tagged in fights (including by himself lol) and had major lapses - I dunno if he was just bored or improved since, but he uses his natural weapons alongside his awkward style beautifully when he wants to now. I do still think Joshua might be able to walk him down and break him down tho..

**** on re Wilder too. If he could just take his loss like, he'd be even more exciting to most fans now and actually make more money. He's nuts tho and is Jeff Lacy II now imo. Think he gets stopped inside 6 this time against Fury simply due to his mental weaknesses.

[1hourRun]

The objective viewer can see there was no evidence of cheating whatsoever. Wilder was beaten up every round and cannot accept he lost.

Veteran officials : Marcus McDonnell, Eddie Cotton ( R.I.P ), and Kenny Bayless would disagree.

[Nash out]

Can people stop being insane! We all know that it was voodoo that stopped Wilder from winning.

[Oldskoolg]

Massively agree with both the above comments.

Earlier on in his career, especially after the Chisora and Cunningham fights, I would've confidently argued that Fury was a KO waiting to happen. He always got tagged in fights (including by himself lol) and had major lapses - I dunno if he was just bored or improved since, but he uses his natural weapons alongside his awkward style beautifully when he wants to now. I do still think Joshua might be able to walk him down and break him down tho..

**** on re Wilder too. If he could just take his loss like, he'd be even more exciting to most fans now and actually make more money. He's nuts tho and is Jeff Lacy II now imo. Think he gets stopped inside 6 this time against Fury simply due to his mental weaknesses.

One thing we may all be overlooking is this could be a genuine case of Wilder’s style being tailor made for Fury. I have always said that the lazy style of Wilde to sit back and wait to land the right hand while giving away the very round was a defeat waiting to happen. He started fighting that way literally right after he defeated Stiverne, a fight in which wilder jabbed and moved and showed his Olympic bronze medal pedigree. He hasn’t fought that way since. Also given that he is sacrificing between 35-75lbs to fury doesn’t help. Wilder is sit to land style invites aggression and fury figured it out. Wilder will either have to be a forward moving fighter who punches in combinations to the head and the body, or he is going to have to be a machine like jabber on the move with angles. Fury isn’t a very good inside fighter unless using his elbows and dirty tactics so I don’t think working at close range is a bad idea either. Wilder will simply have to stay out of being stagnant at mid range….that’s where and how he was beaten

[Oldskoolg]

Massively agree with both the above comments.

Earlier on in his career, especially after the Chisora and Cunningham fights, I would've confidently argued that Fury was a KO waiting to happen. He always got tagged in fights (including by himself lol) and had major lapses - I dunno if he was just bored or improved since, but he uses his natural weapons alongside his awkward style beautifully when he wants to now. I do still think Joshua might be able to walk him down and break him down tho..

**** on re Wilder too. If he could just take his loss like, he'd be even more exciting to most fans now and actually make more money. He's nuts tho and is Jeff Lacy II now imo. Think he gets stopped inside 6 this time against Fury simply due to his mental weaknesses.

but why is he “Jeff Lacy II”? Why do the British, specifically the English (odd since Joe is Welsh) like to forever bring up that fight? Is there a British equivalent for British fighters who get taken apart by American boxers?
come on lads, let’s move past the small island mentality….

[thack]

but why is he “Jeff Lacy II”? Why do the British, specifically the English (odd since Joe is Welsh) like to forever bring up that fight? Is there a British equivalent for British fighters who get taken apart by American boxers?
come on lads, let’s move past the small island mentality….

There's been a few British success stories over the years BUT looking back at the bigger picture the Americans have had a massive amount of success by comparison , too many to list! If we've got a good one here there's usually a match in America that's equal if not better. Hats off to Tyson for taking on Wilder , when Joshua had the chance to do the same! Many years ago when Eubank Sr. was champion, there was James Tony & Mike McCallum who were never mentioned as opponents !

[springfiels]

but why is he “Jeff Lacy II”? Why do the British, specifically the English (odd since Joe is Welsh) like to forever bring up that fight? Is there a British equivalent for British fighters who get taken apart by American boxers?
come on lads, let’s move past the small island mentality….

On this one, as a Brit it obviously does stick in the memory, but I think it's especially relevant with Wilder... A supremely confident, over hyped, brash American knock out artist with only one real weapon who absolutely dominated their division. Taken apart, physically and mentally, by a supremely skilled somewhat overlooked Brit. My main point when making the comparison is Lacy was never even nearly the same fighter or person afterwards, I see the same fate for Wilder. Genuinely, can you give me a more relevant boxer to say he's the next version of? I can't.

Your first reply I disagree with. Wilder is only dangerous in mid range, he telegraphs way too much to close the gap or set traps from the outside and doesn't have the technical fundamentals to go telephone box. I also am flabbergasted at his footwork, it's the definition of a backhanded compliment that his power has made up for it - as it's so bad I find that incredible. The minute he's under serious pressure, he has the footwork of a non-boxer in a fight - crossing his legs, forgetting offence completely and moving in straight lines off balance. My prediction for their third fight is Wilder touches the canvas 2-3 times purely due to bad balance and Fury using his footwork / stance to befuddle him...