[HYPE REVEALED] Loma Run Until 12/2017 = Weight Bully Cherry Picks

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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #11
    He made weight.

    So if someone’s accused of being a weight bully, the next thing to look at, logically, is if he seems giant sized for that division.

    He seems standard for featherweight and small at lightweight.

    Originally posted by dan_cov


    I didn't realise we now had height divisions.

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    • mlac
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      #12
      And Shaun Porter was fighting at MW in the am's. He is also a weight bully then?

      Lomachenko clearly is fighting 1 or 2 divisions above his natural weight, he looks bloated and small at LW.

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      • BoxingIsGreat
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        #13
        Most strong lightweights are between 150-160 on fight night. I remember Bud weighing in 156 for Gamboa on fight night. I expect Nakatani to be around 160 tomorrow. I've been saying Loma can't make 130 for a while. He's a good size lightweight, and at this point can't afford to drain himself down. I don't know how much Loma will hydrate to tomorrow. Like Davis, he's a compact fighter.

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        • dan_cov
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          #14
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
          He made weight.

          So if someone’s accused of being a weight bully, the next thing to look at, logically, is if he seems giant sized for that division.

          He seems standard for featherweight and small at lightweight.




          He had a much bigger frame than everyone he fought at Super Featherweight including Marriaga, Walters, Martinez who are all very big SFWs.

          He looked bigger than Pedraza, Crolla etc who are hardly small LWs

          He just gives the impression he is smaller than he is because his shoulders are so pathetically narrow but he hasn't a small frame by any means, he is just very oddly built with a small waist to chest differential and narrow shoulders.

          Look at the size of his head, wrists, arms, quads, he is absolutely not no standard Featherweight.

          He is an average sized LW

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            #15
            There was only 1lb difference between him and Lopez (A very big LW), 14 days out.

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              #16
              Originally posted by dan_cov



              He had a much bigger frame than everyone he fought at Super Featherweight including Marriaga, Walters, Martinez who are all very big SFWs.

              He looked bigger than Pedraza, Crolla etc who are hardly small LWs

              He just gives the impression he is smaller than he is because his shoulders are so pathetically narrow but he hasn't a small frame by any means, he is just very oddly built with a small waist to chest differential and narrow shoulders.

              Look at the size of his head, wrists, arms, quads, he is absolutely not no standard Featherweight.

              He is an average sized LW
              Before turning pro, he was fighting at 130lbs in the Ams with same day weigh ins. I dont think turning pro at 126 is bullying anyone.

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #17
                Originally posted by War Room
                Loma was a lightweight in 2012 during the last part of his amateur run and in 2013 for those quasi-pro AIBA World Series fights.
                SOURCE: https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Vasyl_Lomachenko

                Question: Why did Loma turn pro at age 26 two weight classes down?

                Answer: Loma can't hang with pro's at his own matured weight so he srunk down to feast on goldfish just like Spence did. Classic weight bully.

                Turning pro at 18 and you dare to be great by modern standardization, you absolutely need to move up in weight and grab more titles. By the age of 26 you should have moved up 2 classes by then if you're in the smaller classes.

                In Loma's case, he shrinks down to fight goldfish because he knows he can't hang with guys at his REAL WEIGHT. Lopez beat him because Loma can't hang at his own weight.

                This is what a grown arsed 28 year-old man shrinking down two classes to fight looks like. Russell looks like a keebler goldfish compared to Loma and Loma obviously looks gaunt here.

                Unofficial weights: Lomachenko 138 Gary 138.5

                You do understand the crucial difference that they basically don't do the whole rehydration thing in the ammys, right?

                Ammy lightweight is 60Kg (132Lbs) without rehydration (although the WSB did use a 61Kg or 134.5Lb Lightweight class for some fights and did have previous day weigh ins but his entire WSB career lasted just 4 months in early 2013), also there's less of a culture of maximising weight advantage or substantial rehydration in the ammys since most ammy fights have same day pre-fight weigh ins. In fact all we know about Lomachenkos fighting weight in the latter part of his amateur career was that he was no longer making the Ammy featherweight limit of 57Kg (125Lbs) but was below 60Kg (or 61Kg for the WSB).

                We do have unofficial weights for a coupla Loma's early fights however, he weighed at 136 against Siri and 138 against Russell (Siri came in at 147 and Gary at 138.5). 135 to 140 is pretty much standard for rehydration at Feather. So no, he wasn't big at Feather, pretty much **** average in fact and if he follows standard trajectory won't be coming in much heavier now but will just be rehydrating less as most fighters do once they hit their 30s.

                So he fought in London with a same day weigh in (wet) at 60Kg (132Lbs) in August 2012, and debuted pro at 14 months later weighing in at 125Lbs (dry). Given he was 136 wet against Siri that looks pretty much exactly in line with what you'd expect for a normal sized Featheweight.

                Very reachy kinda thread TBH... if you don't like a dude just say so rather than trying to come up with 100 spurious reasons to justify it... .

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                  #18
                  - -Someone in OP preschool needs to change his BigBoys...

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                  • War Room
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by mlac
                    And Shaun Porter was fighting at MW in the am's. He is also a weight bully then?

                    Lomachenko clearly is fighting 1 or 2 divisions above his natural weight, he looks bloated and small at LW.
                    Shawn Porter was juiced to the gills in the amateurs. Smarten up --->



                    Loma was a LW since 2011 when he was 23 and a FW back in 2006 when he was 18 and who knows what he started at.

                    Originally posted by dan_cov
                    Loma beat them all with pure skillz doe
                    He fought Rigo mad dirty. Don't make me cut up gifs because I will and you'll feel pantsed in front of your pals.



                    This guy is so mad I put this thread up he sent me this. LMAO!

                    --->

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                    • MONGOOSE66
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by War Room
                      Loma was a lightweight in 2012 during the last part of his amateur run and in 2013 for those quasi-pro AIBA World Series fights.
                      SOURCE: https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Vasyl_Lomachenko

                      Question: Why did Loma turn pro at age 26 two weight classes down?

                      Answer: Loma can't hang with pro's at his own matured weight so he srunk down to feast on goldfish just like Spence did. Classic weight bully.

                      Turning pro at 18 and you dare to be great by modern standardization, you absolutely need to move up in weight and grab more titles. By the age of 26 you should have moved up 2 classes by then if you're in the smaller classes.

                      In Loma's case, he shrinks down to fight goldfish because he knows he can't hang with guys at his REAL WEIGHT. Lopez beat him because Loma can't hang at his own weight.

                      This is what a grown arsed 28 year-old man shrinking down two classes to fight looks like. Russell looks like a keebler goldfish compared to Loma and Loma obviously looks gaunt here.

                      Your boxing weight is weight YOU CAN MAKE MORON. He’s a LITTLE, petite dude. He should be fighting LIGHTER than 135 BUT HES TOO OLD. To make weight genius.

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