Bums in boxing vs Elites

[Citizen Koba]

Even guys like Gavern and Firtha aren’t terrible, terrible. Like they’re not good but they have fundamental ability.

The guys I define as bums are the guys Christopher Lovejoy is fighting in Tijuana or that absolute pudding Dubois fought on his debut.

Yeah, I mean even these are national or regional level guys better than the vast majority of their profession. Like you I'd have to go a long, long way down the ****pile before I got to the point I was calling dudes 'bums' and even then I'd be reluctant ... unless they are an actual bum of course, like that dude Mickey Rourke fought a while back.

[YoungManRumble]

I am a bum. I feel like anyone who gets in the ring and tries their damnedest, no matter what happens, regardless of skill level disparity, should not be called a bum.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Yeah, I mean even these are national or regional level guys better than the vast majority of their profession. Like you I'd have to go a long, long way down the ****pile before I got to the point I was calling dudes 'bums' and even then I'd be reluctant ... unless they are an actual bum of course, like that dude Mickey Rourke fought a while back.

Wasn’t he some homeless guy who took a dive if I remember correctly.

I remember him taking a knee of the weakest body shot in history and then admitting he’d been paid off or some sh** like that. Only in boxing…

[Nash out]

But you’d agree that Wilder is a certified bum tho, no?

Fought no one for 15 yrs apart from the cherrypick of a drug addict coming from a 3-yr hiatus gone bad.

Lacks boxing fundamentals. One-trick pony. No left hand. No jab. No hooks. Flat flooted. Etc. How else would define a bum if not Wilder?

Wilder is an excellent HW. His resume is much better than Julio Cesar Chavez Sr, who had to beat 50 debutants, and 40 journeymen to pad his record. No better than his useless son.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I am a bum. I feel like anyone who gets in the ring and tries their damnedest, no matter what happens, regardless of skill level disparity, should not be called a bum.

Yeah I’m with you 100% on that. There’s no shame in losing to a guy simply better than you. Many average fighters train just as hard as champions.

[daggum]

Wilder is an excellent HW. His resume is much better than Julio Cesar Chavez Sr, who had to beat 50 debutants, and 40 journeymen to pad his record. No better than his useless son.

but chavez sr beat a bunch of top guys. wilder didnt.

[Nash out]

but chavez sr beat a bunch of top guys. wilder didnt.

He didn't in my opinion. His best result was a draw vs Whittaker, but that was a robbery just like Wilder's draw with Fury. I rank Wilder beating Ortiz better than any win JCC had.

[Rockin']

Wilder is an excellent HW. His resume is much better than Julio Cesar Chavez Sr, who had to beat 50 debutants, and 40 journeymen to pad his record. No better than his useless son.

That post is some straight bull****. Who is this fool?.................Rockin'

[Nash out]

That post is some straight bull****. Who is this fool?.................Rockin'

Straight facts, boy. Another JCC fanboy I see. He's overrated. There were more cab drivers in the ring with him than there was on the streets of New York.

[Citizen Koba]

I am a bum. I feel like anyone who gets in the ring and tries their damnedest, no matter what happens, regardless of skill level disparity, should not be called a bum.

Hoping you mean you'd be a bum in the boxing ring rather than that you've moved into a cardboard house, man. Been there and it's no fun at all. But the rest of it, I agree. Even when I was young and pretty fit I'd be a gasping mess after a few rounds competitve sparring with kids who took their **** seriously... to get up and do that **** in front of an audience at the very least takes some guts.