Boxingscene will downgrad Usyk to an undersized bum after AJ outboxes & stops him

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  • billeau2
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    #21
    It would be nice if a few people with opinions about Usyk looked at him more carefully. I am saying this because we can all be idiots. I present to you idiot #1, yours truly. A lot of you had mentioned to me that Usyk fought with tremendous skills. I had seen him against Bellew and Chisora, and saw a guy moving in straight lines, head up, with little movement to speak of, and I said as much.

    Well I finally looked at Usyk at cruiser and lo and behold! Different fighter entirely! I would put the Usyk I saw on a short list of light heavies... Maybe top ten even. I saw varied timing, varied tempo on the punches, head movement, angles, and real bona fide aggression, physicality, the desire to finish an opponent. I had to slap myself as I hate when I cannot figure out "WHY?" Why was it that a guy who was a phenominal fighter... a guy who would be a handful against Michael Spinks, Moorer, Maxie Rosenbloom... could become so devoid of all these skills? By the time he fought Bellew. Surely Bellew was no slouch and Chisora is a decent heavyweight to test one's resolve... But what happened with Usyk? Was it age?

    Then it hit me. There was an underlying asset that Usyk had. It turns out that Usyk fighting at his best weight was a very physical fighter. He depended on his strength a lot in driving his other phenominal skills. This was something he could not do against a bigger opponent. It might have been possible with Bellew... a fine fighter who also could get physical when necessary for sure... But against a bona fide heavyweight like Del Boy? Impossible.

    The reason Usyk will probably not beat Joshua, at the end of the day, In my humble opinion... is that he simply does not have the driver, that allowed him to do all the things that made him such a spectacular cruiserweight. He cannot use strength, and has resorted to fighting in a fashion that allows him to eventually attack an opponent, but in a limited fashion. He also moves straight back... and holds his head way too high... all a recipe for getting clipped.

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      #22
      Originally posted by BangEM

      And which HW in history had/has a granite chin?
      Its a good thing I am not on any commitee for the development of artificial intelligence... People would talk about all these issues like, self awareness, ethics, learning... I would pipe up..."What we really need is a device on all computers in the shape of a pimp's hand." When someone posts an idiotic post like the above? the hand would go into action and deliver a real whopper to the side of the head, that would make Deontay's egg weight dimple look like a hangnail.

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        #23
        Originally posted by billeau2

        Its a good thing I am not on any commitee for the development of artificial intelligence... People would talk about all these issues like, self awareness, ethics, learning... I would pipe up..."What we really need is a device on all computers in the shape of a pimp's hand." When someone posts an idiotic post like the above? the hand would go into action and deliver a real whopper to the side of the head, that would make Deontay's egg weight dimple look like a hangnail.
        Why do you always sound punch drunk? The uncanny way in which you suck Fury off is telling on your ability to think. And what has Artificial Intelligence got to do with this?

        Granite chin is a chin that never touched the canvass. And the only person I can think of is Oliver McCall. The onus is on you to convince me with an argument.

        Off the top: Foreman got knocked out by Ali (dropped by more).

        Ali got dropped by Frazier and Cooper (there are more).

        Tua got knocked down by Barrett.

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          #24
          Originally posted by BangEM

          Why do you always sound punch drunk? The uncanny way in which you suck Fury off is telling on your ability to think. And what has Artificial Intelligence got to do with this?

          Granite chin is a chin that never touched the canvass. And the only person I can think of is Oliver McCall. The onus is on you to convince me with an argument.

          Off the top: Foreman got knocked out by Ali (dropped by more).

          Ali got dropped by Frazier and Cooper (there are more).

          Tua got knocked down by Barrett.
          Oh so you invented your own definition here of an iron chin . Nothing wrong with that, but its a good thing to state when making a point. A lot of guys fought a lot longer than McCall before getting knocked down BTW... Chulavo for example... if he was ever actually down. Mccall actually was a very talented fighter who could have been incredible IMO. Sad that he never fufilled his potential.

          I am pretty level headed about Fury. I am a fan but hardly consider him above reproach. You could see that in the history section for example.

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