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  • EternallyIll
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    #51
    AJ made Ruiz look like Prime Mike Tyson, no room to talk. When Wilder almost loss to Ortiz he gave Ortiz a rematch just to remove any doubt about who was better. That's some man type ****. I would never expect that from AJ acting like losing to the best heavyweight on the planet makes you not elite.

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    • peplz
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      #52
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg
      The reality is that wilder has faced the best heavyweight in the world twice…drew once and lost the other. And is coming back to face him again. Joshua has not faced either of the other top heavyweights and lost to a short fat replacement. I get it, matchroom is supposed to hate wilder because he’s American and wouldn’t let young Edward control his every move….but Joshua may want to actually put some grey matter into his thought process about these claims
      Nobody gives a dam about matchroom or whether a fighter is American or not but a small group of fringe youtubers called the LDBC. The only people that ever even mention Eddie Hearn are Wilder fans. Deontay Wilder is a black man and Anthony Joshua is a black man. I don’t know why y’all think that the nationality of a black man in this racist worldwide society we live in is more important than the black fact. Deontay Wilder has been riding high on his knockout streak. But the bully has been bullied and his aura of invincibility has been shattered. We will see how elite of a fighter he is now that he has to come back from a loss.

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      • peplz
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        #53
        Originally posted by EternallyIll
        AJ made Ruiz look like Prime Mike Tyson, no room to talk. When Wilder almost loss to Ortiz he gave Ortiz a rematch just to remove any doubt about who was better. That's some man type ****. I would never expect that from AJ acting like losing to the best heavyweight on the planet makes you not elite.
        Having a rematch with a guy you already ko’d is not impressive.

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        • Bonduu
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          #54
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime





          Fury will beat Wilder... which will hand AJ a golden excuse to never fight Wilder

          absolutely positive that is how they are thinking





          .....
          Yet we all know who ran from a confirmed 120m to go fight Fury, Wilder even confirmed it, you Wilder fans girls are so full of shlt, many of you are senior citizens but have the mentality of babies (oldskoolg who I call oldskooltool) the ldiot belongs in a seniors retirement home.

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          • Bonduu
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            #55
            So funny and sad to see most wilder fan girls defending their shameful queen.

            Queen that was offered 120m and the only chance to fight a champion and unify but rejected it, when theWBA belt was available and an opportunity arose for the fraud to fight Wlad, the coward Wilder made his boss Shelly duck that fight for him, didn’t Shelly call Wilder a baby champ? this same fight AJ too with less than 18 fights under his belt.

            Wilder isn’t an elite fighter, lost all rounds against bums only to be bailed out by his right hand....

            Whenever Wilder grows a ball, the landlord waits patiently to give the coward a boxing lesson

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            • Inspired
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              #56
              Originally posted by denium
              Wilder is defo an elite HW, and I'm very confident that he would shatter AJ's jaw all over the ring if they ever fought.

              Wilder isn't fat or old, and they're the usual types that AJ likes to fight.
              stop trolling man...
              wilder beat ortiz..and we know how he did that


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              • Monty Fisto
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                #57
                Originally posted by davefromvancouv

                Wilder is number 2 because he's knocked down or knocked out EVERY fighter he's faced, he was the longest reigning champion with 10 title defenses, matching Muhammad Ali, prior to his only loss against the number 1 fighter and the lineal champion of the world. The same fighter he knocked down and almost out in their first fight...

                Ortiz was slickly avoided by Joshua when Ortiz was WBA mandatory. Hearn convinced Ortiz to step aside for Joshua-Klitschko, with a promise that he'd be next. After the great fight, Ortiz was side-stepped again for the failed Klitschko rematch, the failed Pulev IBF mandatory then IBF replacement Takam. Whyte refused to fight Ortiz to become WBC mandatory, and even refused to fight him when Wilder guaranteed a WBC title shot. Fury said fighting Ortiz is high risk low reward. Wilder knocked him out twice.

                The powers that be tried to freeze Wilder out of his contractually obligated rematch with Fury, but luckily he won arbitration. Now, it's payback time and Wilder is coming for blood.
                This is the same Ortiz that didn't accept the fight with Joshua when Big Baby got banned?

                Ring magazine has it Fury, Joshua, wilder.
                Boxrec has it Fury, Joshua, Wilder.
                ESPN has it Fury, Joshua, Wilder.

                Wilder has two wins in his last four fights.

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                • Monty Fisto
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Inspired

                  stop trolling man...
                  wilder beat ortiz..and we know how he did that

                  That video is actually quite shocking when you see how the clean punches are outnumbered by the wrist-bashes and rabbit punches.

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                  • davefromvancouv
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Monty Fisto

                    This is the same Ortiz that didn't accept the fight with Joshua when Big Baby got banned?

                    Ring magazine has it Fury, Joshua, wilder.
                    Boxrec has it Fury, Joshua, Wilder.
                    ESPN has it Fury, Joshua, Wilder.

                    Wilder has two wins in his last four fights.
                    Yes, the same one. He had a bigger guarantee ($7 million) for the Wilder rematch and his manager was trying to get Hearn to up the ante (from $6 million). Ortiz later admitted it was a mistake.

                    I have no problem with the current ranking. I was talking about Wilder's ranking before the Fury fights. Wilder was a champion before Joshua picked up Fury's belts and after Joshua lost to Ruiz and then won the belts back in their rematch.
                    Last edited by davefromvancouv; 06-22-2021, 12:24 PM.

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                    • I have no ears
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by peplz

                      Joshua “needs the belts for legitimacy”? Is this a real statement or some kind of spoof? So Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder don’t “need the wbc belt for legitimacy”?Are we now reframing the sport of boxing and saying that title fights are just a ploy for fighters to gain legitimacy? No more champions just fighters who need belts for legitimacy?
                      My point was if Joshua drops a belt and doesn't fight usyk he will not be viewed as a legitimate champion because he clearly ducked someone, of course the belts bring u legitimacy, it's the pinnacle of boxing being world champion but if u drop one for the sole reason of ducking a Mando all your credibility as a champion goes out the window, how have u misconstrued what I said so badly?

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