If Wilder SLUMPS Fury...almost catches a body, damn near cripples the ref, like he did Stiverne..will you give him credit?

[Combat Talk Radio]

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If this is what you see...an absolutely unhinged Wilder forcing the ref to take flight as he futilely tries to stop him from catching a body...Fury slumped on the deck, possibly dead, who knows...white women in the crowd in stunned fear...

Will you give Wilder credit?

Will you accept the possibility that his "snakes in the grass" theory might have been legit?

Will you recognize Malik Scott as a better trainer than a fighter (like Roach)?


Will Wilder have redeemed himself?

Or will you just make an excuse, and if so, what excuse will you make?

[Donnie Herrera]

Lol...@ the thread title...I think it will go like thatt TY fight or the second Ortiz fight!!!...You must mean Wilder detractors...I don’t think they’ll give him credit either way!!!...

[leeroy84]

I'd be hella impressed and would like to see the outcome of the rubber match to ensure it was no fluke.
I've always said I'd like Wilder to make a fan of me... but off his actions previously, I dont think he'll change or ever make a fan of me.

[DaNeutral.]

I will give him credit, I've already said you can't rate Scott the coach because of Scott the fighter and to be fair Scott was a decent fighter.

I won't be changing my mind on any snakes in the grass BS though. What utter fkking nonsense. He lost and if he destroys Fury the high chances are he will be losing the fight at that point because Fury is a better Boxer. No glove BS, no drunk ref BS, no spiked water BS.

[Southpawology]

Nah I wont. I'll just say fury's robe was too heavy walking to the ring, wilders gloves were loaded, sugarhill spiked furys water, etc.

[kafkod]

wilder-stiverne-rematch%20(17).jpg

If this is what you see...an absolutely unhinged Wilder forcing the ref to take flight as he futilely tries to stop him from catching a body...Fury slumped on the deck, possibly dead, who knows...white women in the crowd in stunned fear...

Will you give Wilder credit?

Will you accept the possibility that his "snakes in the grass" theory might have been legit?

Will you recognize Malik Scott as a better trainer than a fighter (like Roach)?


Will Wilder have redeemed himself?

Or will you just make an excuse, and if so, what excuse will you make?

Tyson Fury is not Bermaine Stiverne. If Wilder comes out and charges at the Gypsy King like a windmilling madman he will be severely punished for his ******ity.

And whatever the outcome of the 3rd fight, the nonsensical cheating accusations and conspiracy theories he came out with after getting walloped in the second fight will still be nonsensical. Knocking Fury out won't alter that.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Tyson Fury is not Bermaine Stiverne. If Wilder comes out and charges at the Gypsy King like a windmilling madman he will be severely punished for his ******ity.

And whatever the outcome of the 3rd fight, the nonsensical cheating accusations and conspiracy theories he came out with after getting walloped in the second fight will still be nonsensical. Knocking Fury out won't alter that.

See, I disagree.

Wilder being tentative is what got him bombed on in both fights. It's also what got him rocked against Ortiz.

At some point he's moved starkly away from windmilling. I submit that's exactly what he needs to be doing if he wants to throw Fury off - is aggression. Relentless aggression. Force Fury to move and expend energy. Fury will expect another tentative, cautious Wilder.

Remember, that's how USS Cunningham managed to put Fury down - gas him out. But Wilder's power is significantly higher than Steve.

[Robbie Barrett]

As much credit as Rahman did for Lewis or any other fighter that landed their punchers chance. He'd have to do it more than once to get real credit. Fury has proven he's the better fighter, landing a punch won't change that perception, he'll be called lucky.

[kafkod]

See, I disagree.

Wilder being tentative is what got him bombed on in both fights. It's also what got him rocked against Ortiz.

At some point he's moved starkly away from windmilling. I submit that's exactly what he needs to be doing if he wants to throw Fury off - is aggression. Relentless aggression. Force Fury to move and expend energy. Fury will expect another tentative, cautious Wilder.

Remember, that's how USS Cunningham managed to put Fury down - gas him out. But Wilder's power is significantly higher than Steve.

Cunningham didn't put Fury down by gassing him out, that's the exact opposite of what happened! Fury got caught by an over hand right while show boating in the 2nd round. After he got up, Fury stopped boxing and started walking Cunningham down, bullying and mauling him on the inside, and that was how he won the fight.

Wilder was tentative in the second fight because Fury was forcing him back and he can't fight on the back foot. Fury is too big and strong to be pushed back and too defensively smart to be caught by windmills, unless he gets careless or Wilder gets lucky. It's probably the only chance Deontay has of winning though, so I guess he may as well roll the dice and give it a try.

[miniq]

Stiverne is 1% of the fighter Fury is.

If wilder wants to win he has to be able to neutralize Fury's dogfighting ability or up his own dogfight game. Fury is going to manhandle him again.

fury didn't come out of the 2nd bout thinking he performed great, still plenty he can improve on. Wilder meanwhile is RELYING on Fury not being able to get better.