What makes anyone think that Wilder vs Fury 3 will be any different?

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  • -Kev-
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    #11
    Anything can happen in boxing. You can lose by brutal KO in boxing, then in the rematch you can win by KO. It has happened so many times throughout history that I am amazed someone would think it’s impossible for the loser of a fight to win the rematch.

    Joe Louis went from getting stopped by Schmeling in 12 rounds and then KO’ing him in 1 round in the rematch.

    Legends/HOF’ers have been stunned, hurt, KD’ed and KO’ed by way lesser opponents than Tyson Fury and written off at the time. Fury is a very good all around boxer, contrary to fans belief that Wilder lost because he sucks, there’s actually no shame in losing to him. Wilder can come in with a completely different mindset. He will come in as the underdog which will prevent him from feeling himself too much and being overconfident.

    Also, one last thing, the HW division has always been so volatile for champions, historically. I think it’s the hardest division to reign for a long time. In recent decades, Wladimir Klitschko reigned for over a decade. But that’s rare to do and Fury just does not have the discipline that Wlad had. Say what you want about him, but he stayed in shape throughout his entire career. And that helps a ton in boxing.

    Not saying Wilder is going to win, just saying historically, Heavyweight boxing has always been unpredictable at the top level.

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    • Earl-Hickey
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      #12
      Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury

      Maybe because the U.S. is open and the UK isn't
      So what, AJ fought Pulev in the UK and I don't think this fight is going to do huge numbers at the gate.

      Bayless was taking the piss in the last fight and Wilder doesn't deserve home advantage yet again.

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      • DaNeutral.
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        #13
        Well the things I have noticed are Wilder weally weally weally wants to win this time and he weally weally hates Tyson Fury now.

        Oh and he is now punching pads in his kitchen.

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        • alexguiness
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          #14
          Fury took Wilders best shots in the first fight and still completely schooled him.

          In the second fight Fury bullied Wilder and beat him up.

          There is no evidence whatsoever that Wilder has anything different to offer in the third fight. he has probably the worst technique / skill as a former WC and his power made no impact on Fury in both fights.





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          • BodyBagz
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            #15
            Also worth mentioning -
            NO KENNY USELESS !

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #16
              Can Tyson Fury be hit? Yes. Can Tyson Fury be hurt? Yes.

              Is Tyson Fury a clumsy kid at times? Yes.

              These are all the reasons why Deontay Wilder can win.

              Tyson Fury has been there to be hit in all of his comeback fights, Fury no longer implements his former Riddler style 'Which was a bi-product of Peter Fury's training'.

              There is a high likely-hood, that Wilder will at some point land of Tyson Fury.

              Apart from that, Tyson Fury is the better fighter and should win the fight regardless etc.
              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 06-19-2021, 06:13 AM.

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              • Holler
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                #17
                I think a lot depends on each man's state of mind. Fury may have had his eye elsewhere and not have the required intensity. Part of what makes him interesting is that capacity to self destruct. If he's fully focussed he should win, he's a much better boxer, has the size and strength, those together should be enough. If these guys fight 10 times I have Fury winning 7 outright, 2 draws (one legit the second a robbery of Fury) and 1 Wilder win because with that right hand he has a chance until late into the fight.

                Wilder on the other hand has had good coaching available to him for years and the fault for not taking note of it belongs squarely with him. Scott says that he already had what he needed and his work has been focussed on making it natural to him, this is a good thing because if he was telling us that he was trying to teach a 35 year old dog new tricks we'd have reason to dismiss him.

                If Wilder has had the skills but not paid heed to making them instinctive, then maybe even a novice coach who he does listen to could have some impact and help him deal with a massive guy taking the fight to him as per fight 2, rather than a smaller guy trying to avoid him. Big if though that one...

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                • kafkod
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Toffee
                  No, they're righting wrongs. Things went wrong because Wilder had a bad day, defined by Scott as Wilder getting his eardrum busted, his trainer drugging him, his costume being too heavy...

                  All they have to do is make mental corrections and not have those 'bad day' things happen this time.

                  It sounds like I'm taking the pi55, and I am, but it's also exactly what Scott said.
                  Deontay was the victim of a racist conspiracy. He got a busted eardrum and a dented skull. His outfit was too heavy, his drinking water was spiked, he was betrayed by a trusted friend, and he got the **** beat out of him by a 6' 9" gypsy. So yeah, just a bad day at the office, **** happens, but now it's back to business as usual.
                  Last edited by kafkod; 06-19-2021, 05:32 AM.

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                  • PRINCEKOOL
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                    #19
                    Tyson Fury is not stopping Wilder in his tracks with a single punch, if Fury had this ability 'For sure, I would say with 95% certainty? Tyson Fury is going to win this fight'.

                    Wilder can stop, deter or change the direction of a fight with a single punch. Plus people are not giving Wilder credit for his survival capabilities, he lost the rematch vs Fury but he was surviving and still fighting back 'And basically that is all Wilder needs to do, constantly stay in the fight and strike with venom whenever he can'.

                    This is still a difficult fight was Tyson Fury, the dangers are real 'Because I am not sure whether people realize this? But Deontay Wilder is not simply going to disappear etc.






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                    • hogey
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                      #20
                      Fury gave Wilder the heavy beating of his life for round after round, at 35 yrs old a battering like that from a huge man like Fury will absolutely take a long term toll on Wilder and i doubt he will ever be the same man again. I suspect once the beating starts in this next fight Wilder's spirit will break and Fury put away much quicker this time.
                      Last edited by hogey; 06-19-2021, 06:59 PM.

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