Comments Thread For: Wilder: I Hate Fury Now, We're Dealing With a Known Drug Cheat, I'll Do More Than Punish Him

[OldTerry]

You do know WHY boxers wear padded gloves and hand wraps, right?

It's to protect their moneymakers, their hands. If Fury HAD removed the padding and punched Wilder with 'bare knuckle fists' his hands would have been broken to pieces. Wilder's face would have been a complete MESS too. Have you ever SEEN a bare knuckle fight?

And even if he HAD been up to some sort of shenanigans the gloves and hand wraps are cut off and inspected by the Commission after every fight since Margarito vs Cotto in 2009.

Wilder got beat by a better opponent, that's all.

The only reason why Wilder got the first fight in the first place was because they thought it would be yet ANOTHER cherry pick - Fury had 3 years out of the ring, had just lost 10 stone after a period of substance abuse and only had 2 tune up fights against poor opponents.

I suppose you didn't see the Bill Collins, Luis Resto fight. If you had you wouldn't be making the comment you did about boxers not removing padding from their gloves.

Collins was matched against Puerto Rican journeyman Luis Resto at Madison Square Garden in New York on June 16, 1983, on the undercard of the Roberto Durán vs. Davey Moore light middleweight title fight. Collins entered the fight as a betting favorite but took a heavy beating and lost by a unanimous decision.

At the end of the fight, Collins' father and trainer, Billy Sr., noticed that Resto's gloves felt thinner than normal and demanded that they be impounded.^[2] A subsequent investigation by the New York State Boxing Commission concluded that Resto's trainer, Panama Lewis, had removed an ounce of padding from each glove. It made Resto's punches harder and more damaging to Collins. The fight result was changed to a no contest.

Lewis' New York boxing license was permanently revoked, effectively banning him from any official role in American boxing for life. Resto was suspended indefinitely and never fought again. In 1986, Lewis and Resto were tried and convicted of assault, conspiracy, and criminal possession of a deadly weapon (Resto's plaster of paris wraps); prosecutors felt that Lewis' actions made the fight an illegal assault on Collins. Both served 2 1/2 years in prison.
In the Resto fight, Collins' eyes were swollen shut. He suffered a torn iris and permanently blurred vision, which left him unable to box again.

[snowdog]

No, what it actually comes down to is cheating which is compounded by white skin privilege and all the advantages that come with it. One group of fighters have to play by the same rules while certain members of a particular demographic does not. Which is not fair.

And THIS is why your country is rife with race riots and is in such a mess. White skin privilege? Nonsense.

Fury got up in under 10 seconds. No cheating involved.

The ref in the second fight was black and even gave Wilder an extra few seconds for Wilder to recover at times and deducted a point from Fury. He was also on the verge of stopping the fight before the towel came in.

You should just accept the fact that Wilder got beat twice by a better boxer. Until you do so you'll never be able to move on.

Wilder also tried playing the race card in one of the press conferences before the first fight and Fury quite rightly had none of it. He basically told him to shut his cake hole about it because the fact that they're two different races has NOTHING to do with the price of chips.

[snowdog]

I suppose you didn't see the Bill Collins, Luis Resto fight. If you had you wouldn't be making the comment you did about boxers not removing padding from their gloves.

Collins was matched against Puerto Rican journeyman Luis Resto at Madison Square Garden in New York on June 16, 1983, on the undercard of the Roberto Durán vs. Davey Moore light middleweight title fight. Collins entered the fight as a betting favorite but took a heavy beating and lost by a unanimous decision.

At the end of the fight, Collins' father and trainer, Billy Sr., noticed that Resto's gloves felt thinner than normal and demanded that they be impounded.^[2] A subsequent investigation by the New York State Boxing Commission concluded that Resto's trainer, Panama Lewis, had removed an ounce of padding from each glove. It made Resto's punches harder and more damaging to Collins. The fight result was changed to a no contest.

Lewis' New York boxing license was permanently revoked, effectively banning him from any official role in American boxing for life. Resto was suspended indefinitely and never fought again. In 1986, Lewis and Resto were tried and convicted of assault, conspiracy, and criminal possession of a deadly weapon (Resto's plaster of paris wraps); prosecutors felt that Lewis' actions made the fight an illegal assault on Collins. Both served 2 1/2 years in prison.
In the Resto fight, Collins' eyes were swollen shut. He suffered a torn iris and permanently blurred vision, which left him unable to box again.

And, again, this is why gloves and hand wraps are cut off after the fight and inspected by the Commission. If Fury HAD managed to remove hair from the glove it would have been spotted. It should also be noted that to remove the hair from the glove you'd also need to find a way of sewing up the glove again without anyone noticing as well as needing to do something to hide his broken hands after the fight was over.

Wilder got beat FAIRLY by a better fighter twice and he can't accept it. And because he can't accept it neither can you.

It's not healthy. You both need to embrace the L.

[OldTerry]

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And in that context, Team Wilder have a team in place to make sure Fury does not cheat, correct?
No tampering with gloves, no biased judges or ref and drug test as well, yes?
If all that is in play and we’re all sure it will be, then Wilder has no reason not to destroy Fury, yes?
Wilder should win this time, yes or no?

And if he doesn’t, will you have other excuses?

I'm pulling for Wilder. If everything you mentioned is in play and Wilder still loses and loses in the same fashion then no excuses can be made for him. On the other hand if Wilder beats Fury or has a decent showing it will lead credence to what has been suggested about Fury in the second fight. Honestly it is all part of what makes this this fight so intriguing.

[Monzon99]

wilder is the biggest fraud pretender no class jack a55 coward in the history of sport. boycott wilder forever until haymon and finkel are forced to sacrifice him to AJ.

[Beercules]

Fury has real estate in Wilders head. That said Wilder is always dangerous.

[OldTerry]

And, again, this is why gloves and hand wraps are cut off after the fight and inspected by the Commission. If Fury HAD managed to remove hair from the glove it would have been spotted. It should also be noted that to remove the hair from the glove you'd also need to find a way of sewing up the glove again without anyone noticing as well as needing to do something to hide his broken hands after the fight was over.

Wilder got beat FAIRLY by a better fighter twice and he can't accept it. And because he can't accept it neither can you.

It's not healthy. You both need to embrace the L.

Not disagreeing with your point on Fury's gloves being inspected after the fight. My issue was with your comment indicating that boxers wouldn't remove padding from their gloves out of fear of damaging their hands which is totally disproved by the example I provided.

[snowdog]

Not disagreeing with your point on Fury's gloves being inspected after the fight. My issue was with your comment indicating that boxers wouldn't remove padding from their gloves out of fear of damaging their hands which is totally disproved by the example I provided.

In the example you gave the boxer in question also had plaster of paris hand wraps, protecting his hands. So unless Fury's team managed to add gypsum to his hand wraps, cut his glove, removed hair from the glove, sewed the glove back up and then somehow managed to get past both the glove and hand wrap inspections after the fight, you're talking a load of old nonsense.

After Margarito vs Cotto new measures were put in place to prevent the cheating that you've described from the 80s and indeed the cheating seen in 2008.

[champion4ever]

And THIS is why your country is rife with race riots and is in such a mess. White skin privilege? Nonsense.

Fury got up in under 10 seconds. No cheating involved.

The ref in the second fight was black and even gave Wilder an extra few seconds for Wilder to recover at times and deducted a point from Fury. He was also on the verge of stopping the fight before the towel came in.

You should just accept the fact that Wilder got beat twice by a better boxer. Until you do so you'll never be able to move on.

Wilder also tried playing the race card in one of the press conferences before the first fight and Fury quite rightly had none of it. He basically told him to shut his cake hole about it because the fact that they're two different races has NOTHING to do with the price of chips.

You are hypocrite. You want to blame the victims of racism like Deontay Wilder for being a racist because he exposes your racism and it frightens you. The only racist here is you.

[I have no ears]

Yeah, why?

Every boxing fan knows Tyson popped dirty years back, yet here u are reminding everyone like u just found out yesterday