Comments Thread For: Teofimo Lopez Positive For COVID-19; Entire Lopez-Kambosos Card Postponed Until August 14

[BeLikeWater]

If you want to quote CDC excess deaths they have a page specifically for that, maybe you should have linked directly to it, although it does show you are wrong yet again, yet another L to add to your collection.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm

There you go denying official CDC.gov statistics yet again. You are highly unstable and need to seek help ASAP. It’s one thing to debate, but to simply deny official government information is dangerous and conspiratorial. Seek help and maybe even leave your moms house and get a job. You are sick in the head my man.

[asgarth]

the following is from official cdc.gov data as interpreted by John Hopkins:

Consider the following figures- US Total deaths by year per CDC:

2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,855,000
2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020- not good- pandemicky numbers to be sure.

However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019?

But wait it’s even “scarier”- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020’s increase in mortality rate– so does this mean we have had pandemics for the last 7 years?

You used very old data and Death statistics always lag behind.

Here is a scientific paper for you from the CDC

Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020 (cdc.gov)

and the following table shows you the death numbers for 2020:

cdc.png
its a significant incease even with social distancing and lockdown measures.


You are one of those people who 1) pick data so that it fits your agenda and also 2) interpret them wrongly.


Edit:
Ended up reading some of your other posts. You cant be help. You cant process information that goes against your beliefs. Thats an awful way to live.
And again, you have an inability to interpret data correctly. Go back to school.

[BeLikeWater]

You used very old data and Death statistics always lag behind.

Here is a scientific paper for you from the CDC

Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020 (cdc.gov)

and the following table shows you the death numbers for 2020:

cdc.png
its a significant incease even with social distancing and lockdown measures.


You are one of those people who 1) pick data so that it fits your agenda and also 2) interpret them wrongly.


Edit:
Ended up reading some of your other posts. You cant be help. You cant process information that goes against your beliefs. Thats an awful way to live.
And again, you have an inability to interpret data correctly. Go back to school.

So do you also accept that 5k people have died from the vaccine? That’s cdc.gov data. Or that those who died from covid 19, 94% had 2 or more comorbidities also cdc data. If we are gonna accept the data let’s accept it all around. The mass majority of people that died were over 80. You know, the boomer population? Show me your lack of bias I’m listening.

[New England]

was he vaccinated? amazing that a pro athlete would put his earnings on the line, shades of chris paul. FFS it's 2 shots in your arm and you might feel sick for a day. i felt like trash after my second shot but it literally lasted 10 hours. i woke up the next day genuinely astonished that it passed so quickly. if you're making a benefit and detriment analysis and weighing 24 hours of feeling sick and thinking it's worse than giving up your million dollar payday you have a screw loose or you're soft and scared of needles.

[New England]

You used very old data and Death statistics always lag behind.

Here is a scientific paper for you from the CDC

Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020 (cdc.gov)

and the following table shows you the death numbers for 2020:

cdc.png
its a significant incease even with social distancing and lockdown measures.


You are one of those people who 1) pick data so that it fits your agenda and also 2) interpret them wrongly.


Edit:
Ended up reading some of your other posts. You cant be help. You cant process information that goes against your beliefs. Thats an awful way to live.
And again, you have an inability to interpret data correctly. Go back to school.

600k people died in spite of the lockdown. in that same time period you might have 30-40k deaths from the flu. if we didn't lock the **** down you'd have seen overflowing hospitals, food and labor shortages. we're talking about millions of dead. it would look like the second world war. these people aren't worth the time out of your day to show them statistics. it's folly.


the second world war actually only killed about 415 thousand americans. imagine if you saw the same kind of patriotism in a pandemic that you see because of that war? staying mostly alone and inside for a year was the most patriotic and american thing i've ever done. i'm fairly sure i got covid super early [i went to the last bruins game before the lockdown, a few days before rudy gobert shut down the NBA,] and i stayed away from my aunts, who are not healthy and in assisted living, and probably saved their lives.

[BeLikeWater]

600k people died in spite of the lockdown. in that same time period you might have 30-40k deaths from the flu. if we didn't lock the **** down you'd have seen overflowing hospitals, food and labor shortages. we're talking about millions of dead. it would look like the second world war. these people aren't worth the time out of your day to show them statistics. it's folly.


the second world war actually only killed about 415 thousand americans. imagine if you saw the same kind of patriotism in a pandemic that you see because of that war? staying mostly alone and inside for a year was the most patriotic and american thing i've ever done. i'm fairly sure i got covid super early [i went to the last bruins game before the lockdown, a few days before rudy gobert shut down the NBA,] and i stayed away from my aunts, who are not healthy and in assisted living, and probably saved their lives.

Your flu death number is off by half. 80k usually die from flu. 100k people die a year from simple hospital mistakes. Studies have shown the lockdowns made things worse. Check Sweden. Giving up your rights like a coward doesn’t equal patriotism.

[daggum]

the following is from official cdc.gov data as interpreted by John Hopkins:

Consider the following figures- US Total deaths by year per CDC:

2013: 2,596,993
2014: 2,626,418
2015: 2,712,630
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,813,503
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,855,000
2020: as of 11/14 total deaths= 2,512,880

At present the US is experiencing a 1.12% increase in overall mortality rates for 2020- not good- pandemicky numbers to be sure.

However, last year, 2019, there was also a 1.12% increase. Did we miss a pandemic in 2019?

But wait it’s even “scarier”- 2018 saw a 1.22% increase in mortality rates, 2017 saw a 1.24% increase, 2016 1.27% increase, 2015 1.27% increase, 2014 1.29% increase- all exceeding 2020’s increase in mortality rate– so does this mean we have had pandemics for the last 7 years?

actually the following is from the cdc..

In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths occurred in the United States

thats an 18 percent increase and thats with people staying inside and taking risks. you are a clear and present danger to our society.

[asgarth]

So do you also accept that 5k people have died from the vaccine? That’s cdc.gov data. Or that those who died from covid 19, 94% had 2 or more comorbidities also cdc data. If we are gonna accept the data let’s accept it all around. The mass majority of people that died were over 80. You know, the boomer population? Show me your lack of bias I’m listening.

The other guy already told you what the 5k number is all about.

The number gives you a posisble correlation, but no causation. You cant infere causation from those numbers.

Its the same as the well known ice cream homicide correlation.
Homicides increase when sales for ice cream increase.
Is it a correlation or a causation?

So, do you actually acknowledge now that the # of deaths increased singificantly because of the virus? Or will you just ignore the data and continue to spread the same false claims?

And if you acknowledge it, do you think we prevented a lot of deaths with the lockdowns, masks and social distancing?

I dont get your comorbidities argument. Some of the comorbidities are diabetes and obesity. More than 40% of the US population is obese?

[daggum]

So do you also accept that 5k people have died from the vaccine? That’s cdc.gov data. Or that those who died from covid 19, 94% had 2 or more comorbidities also cdc data. If we are gonna accept the data let’s accept it all around. The mass majority of people that died were over 80. You know, the boomer population? Show me your lack of bias I’m listening.

do you accept that 600k people have died from covid? why would the death rate explode by 18 percent then? and whats more 600k or 5k? also 5 times more people have gotten the vaccine than have gotten covid so pro rated thats 3 million covid deaths. what is more 3 million or 5k? also by your own numbers 50k compeltely healthy people have died from covid so yeah still 10 times safer and 50 times safer pro rated. you are the master at making bad decisions and not understanding math so we know what decision you made. thats the thing you have all the info and you completely come up with the wrong conclusoins. broken brain

[daggum]

Your flu death number is off by half. 80k usually die from flu. 100k people die a year from simple hospital mistakes. Studies have shown the lockdowns made things worse. Check Sweden. Giving up your rights like a coward doesn’t equal patriotism.

The CDC estimates that an average of 36,000 people died of the flu each year over the past decade. what nonsense you post.

and sweden what? sweden had a lax policy towards covid and 15k people died. finalnd and norway which are right next door and similar in makeup had stricter policies and less than 1k died in those countries. how do stricter policies make things worse? that makes no sense at all.

when did people give up their rights? the right to infect someone else and kill them? how about freedom from some ****** ass disease bag killing you cause they wont even wear a mask during a pandemic? it goes both ways. you want to pretend its not even real cause you dont care about other people. other people dont want you to be real cause you are so ****** and get them killed