Comments Thread For: Teofimo Lopez Positive For COVID-19; Entire Lopez-Kambosos Card Postponed Until August 14

[aaronbnb]

No its not. The Pfizer vaccine is 6 fold less effective against the B1.617.2 (Delta) which is the double mutant from India. Most cases now are Delta so if you got the vaccine by Pfizer there is only around 37% protection against this new strain in particular. Anyone can be symptomatic if they're infected.



source - https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...-india-variant

yes most cases now are delta because it is so effective against the original strain. what five/six times less effective and "protection" means is really hard to determine. Point is Teo should have taken the vaccine and he didn't. I'm sure he'll be fine but you don't want to be the one that turns out to be Khamzat Chimaev.

[War Room]

yes most cases now are delta because it is so effective against the original strain. what five/six times less effective and "protection" means is really hard to determine. Point is Teo should have taken the vaccine and he didn't. I'm sure he'll be fine but you don't want to be the one that turns out to be Khamzat Chimaev.

It's like 37% for a double dose vaccination. Prooh here, just posted it ^ --->

The team compared the concentrations of the neutralizing antibodies among the variants. They found that people who had been fully vaccinated with two Pfizer doses had antibodies that were 6 times lower against the B.1.617.2 variant, 5 times lower against the B.1.351 variant, and 2.6 times lower against the B.1.1.7 variant when compared to the original strain.

The antibody response was even lower in people who had received only one dose. After a single Pfizer dose, 79% of people had neutralizing antibodies against the original strain, which fell to 50% for the B.1.1.7 variant, 32% for the B.1.617.2 variant, and 25% for the B.1.351 variant.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...-india-variant

Whats a Khamzat Chimaev and what does he do/did/etc?

[hectari]

Well that’s good news. There are so many people against the vax, I’m just a bit hesitant. My doctor told me to wait 9 months (September) if I’m still reluctant to get it done.

Well now someone said he has symptoms and is in bed, I think his immune system was compromised by draining himself during fight week and reducing caloric intake fighters are susceptible to infection during this critical stage on fight week when their body is almost malnourished. This why Weight cutting should be regulated.

[hectari]

Your numbers are based on one dose - after the second dose the numbers relative to the Delta strain increase to 95-97% effective.

You mean Delta Variant? I thought it was just a variant and not a strain.

[aaronbnb]

It's like 37% for a double dose vaccination. Prooh here, just posted it ^ --->



https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...-india-variant

Whats a Khamzat Chimaev and what does he do/did/etc?

Khamzat Chimaev was a breakout UFC star last year. Won three fights over a couple months - record time. So he got his big high profile step up fight, but then got COVID and had to reschedule the fight multiple times because he was having lingering problems. He even tweeted that COVID symptoms (apparently his lungs were damaged) might cost him his career but he walked that back. He hasn't fought since fall last year.

We talk about COVID like it will not cause serious symptoms for heathy young people like professional athletes. And we're mostly right. I haven't seen many fit young people having a serious case or having lasting problems. But there are some people like Khamzat.

[andocom]

The inventor of the PCR test specifically stated that it is not detecting actual viruses, only residues. But you are obviously an Okee Doke that doesnt to his own research and eats directly from the hands of other men. Pertaining to the gain of function, Fauci himself stated the rate of mutation was faster than anything previously seen which suggests he has seen it mutate. How is this hard for you to understand? It seems to me you are speaking from your ego not from knowledge. Typical Okee Doke.

Pretty much as expected, a "do your own researcher", which translates to I saw some random on YouTube with no specific education in the field spouting absolute rubbish.

Keeping your 100% rate of getting nothing correct, well done. Did your own "research" lead you to believe covid is mutating "faster than anything previously seen"? Bit surprising your "research" didn't educate you that covid mutates slower than even influenza that lacks covid's proofreading mechanism which comparatively limits its mutation. Additionally you are still confused by GoF and variation through replication (i.e. mutations), these aren't related.

You keep using words you don't understand, wrongly. But thats fine, I guess I'm just an "Okee Doke", but at least with a basic understanding of biology though.

[tritium_arma]

What an idiot. Dude wasted people's time and money cause his anti vaxx stance. Hope he loses next.

[aboutfkntime]

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I can't believe there are re-tards saying that... Teo got covid, because he did not take the vaccine


even shlthead Fauci and the criminal CDC admit that the vaccine will not prevent people from contracting covid


some of you people are fkn dumb lol






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[andocom]

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STOP THE BULLSHlT !!!



there is WAY too much bullshlt is this thread already...


1) PCR tests have already been proven fake... the inventor of PCR warned that it should never be used to confirm if a patient is infected


CDC admits antibody tests for Covid-19 wrong up to half the time:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/26/h...ong/index.html

Independent research suggests up to 90% falsepositives:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/h...s-testing.html


2) FACT: you can still test positive for covid AFTER taking the vaccine... and the reason why is, the "vaccine" is NOT a vaccine, it is gene therapy

there are 5 qualifying criteria for a vaccine on the CDC website... none of the current RNA treatments meet ANY of the qualifying criteria


stop being so ****** you clowns

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Wrong, on literally every point, jesus christ.

Firstly the inventory of PCR tests (Dr Kary Mullis) didn't actually say that, its a hoax, did you really think he would have been given the nobel prize for discovering the PCR procedure if it didn't work? Let alone the fact he died before covid 19 - https://www.aap.com.au/pcr-inventor-...19-infections/

The link to the CDC guidance isn't even for PCR tests which is what Teo had, its for antibody tests, which don't show if you have covid, it shows that you've had it and have produced antigens to it, with varying levels of accuracy.

The covid 19 vaccine isn't 100% effective, guess what Einstein, literally no vaccine is 100% effective, and no it isn't gene therapy, again this is a hoax - https://www.aap.com.au/covid-19-vacc...osed-as-false/

Maybe stop getting your "FACTS" from conspiracy filled graphics on Facebook and visit pubmed if you actually want to learn something with a scientific basis.

[andocom]

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I can't believe there are re-tards saying that... Teo got covid, because he did not take the vaccine


even shlthead Fauci and the criminal CDC admit that the vaccine will not prevent people from contracting covid


some of you people are fkn dumb lol

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Infections
Latest figures published in the Lancet, at least two weeks after the second dose of Covid jabs, protection against infection fell from 92% for the Alpha variant to 79% against the Delta variant for the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, while for the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine the protection fell from 73% to 60% respectively.

Symptomatic Disease

According to the latest figures from Public Health England (PHE), four weeks after one dose, either vaccine offered almost 50% protection against the Alpha variant. However for the Delta variant this protection was lower, with one dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech jab offering about 36% protection against symptomatic disease. For one dose of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine this figure was about 30%.

Two weeks after the second dose, the differences in vaccine effectiveness by variant were more modest, with the Pfizer/BioNTech jab offering 88% protection against symptomatic disease with the Delta variant, compared with 94% protection against the Alpha variant. For the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, the figures were 67% and 74% respectively.

Summary:
79% protection from getting covid infectons from the Delta variant for Pfizer, 60% for AZ.
88% protection against symptomatic disease from the Delta variant for Pfizer, 67% for AZ.

So yes, obviously getting vaccinated significantly lowers your chance of getting either covid infection and disease, including the Delta variant, what planet are you living on?