Kavilaskus beats Porter,Thurman and Ugas.

[BLASTER1]

We can end the thread right here....

We can have a wager on Ortiz/ mean machine if ya confident

[Mammoth]

Well if ya dont want to talk difference of opinions then maybe you shouldn't be in this thread.

I guess.

We saw Kavaliauskas' ceiling and that wasn't the first time. If somebody plants their feet Kava has the power to get them out of there like he did with Avanesyan but the guys you mentioned won't do that. He might have gotten a knockdown against Bud but that was because Crawford wanted to channel The Marvelous One that night. Kava is a fun fighter but maybe he's just more of a tough guy than a boxer.

[BLASTER1]

I guess.

We saw Kavaliauskas' ceiling and that wasn't the first time. If somebody plants their feet Kava has the power to get them out of there like he did with Avanesyan but the guys you mentioned won't do that. He might have gotten a knockdown against Bud but that was because Crawford wanted to channel The Marvelous One that night. Kava is a fun fighter but maybe he's just more of a tough guy than a boxer.

That's the difference I see compared to you.
I see a strong fighter that can get into great positions using his lead control plus getting in and off the line.
Hes definitely not just a straight up and down fighter.
He has technique and knows body mechanics to get into positions to hurt people.

[BLASTER1]

I honestly I think he gets both Porter and Danny out of their.

[boxinggod101]

Troll thread??

[War Room]

When Bud thought the very dangerous Kava he showed us all why hes p4p and should get 50/50 in a spence fight

Trust me Kava will knock Ortiz out which will give us all Bud/Kava 2

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[BLASTER1]

Troll thread??

Not at all bro.
Bud faced a VERY dangerous fighter that's up their with all the top 5 Welters atm but gets no respect for taking out such a hard technical fighter.
Abit of Bias regarding Bud imo.

[sicko]

NO! He lost to Journeyman Ray Robinson but they saved his 0 with a Draw. Give me Thurman, Porter and Ugas over Mean Machine Convincingly. Now to be fair I do think Mean Machine is a solid fighter and has improved since this fight and he is a Top 10 Welterweight but NO he is not beating any of the Top Tier Welterweights

[_Rexy_]

In all honesty, Ray was robbed against Kavaliauskas too.

I thought he got robbed against Kelly as well. Robinson is one of those guys that will test any prospect and show their flaws.

[_Rexy_]

NO! He lost to Journeyman Ray Robinson but they saved his 0 with a Draw. Give me Thurman, Porter and Ugas over Mean Machine Convincingly. Now to be fair I do think Mean Machine is a solid fighter and has improved since this fight and he is a Top 10 Welterweight but NO he is not beating any of the Top Tier Welterweights

How is Ray a journeymen? both his draws should be wins, and two of his three losses are to Ugas and Shawn Porter. his record isn't a bad one.