Comments Thread For: Arum: Hearn Should Look In Mirror; He Screwed Everything Up With Fury-Joshua Deal

[kafkod]

Oh Bob you can keep chirping away at Eddie Hearn and trying to throw the blame on him but what you done is so fkking blatant that even the major Hearn haters are pointing out that you the fishy fkk knuckle in regards to what has happened here.

We can go back to day 1 on this AJ Fury matter and comb through every interview, every statement and the only one that can be found to be blatantly lying is BOB.

But according to Bob, he wasn't lying until Eddie Hearn decided to believe him!

[harry-greb]

Why has nobody asked arum about the clause in the fury wilder contract that apparently the contract could have been cancelled last December and team Fury could have walked away from wilder with no repurcussions, as Eddie has been saying?

[Rapscallion]

I can point you at several Arum interviews on youtube Barbershop was one where he explicitly says that the arbitration will not block the fight and the worst-case scenario was compensation. He's supposed to be a highly qualified lawyer.

Is he lying now or was he lying then?

Arum is proovedly lying it's just which was the lie.

I agree that Arum made it seem as if Wilder had no case; however, Hearn was foolish to take Arum at his word, if in fact he did. I believe that Hearn was trying to pressure Weinstein into ruling in favor of Fury by making as big a production as possible when setting up the fight. And it didn't work, so Hearn looked foolish.

[lion33lit]

They ALL knew about the pending arbitration case. Their strategy was to talk and act like the case was non-existent. It’s just like Arum said, they weren’t communicating with each other. Hearn was thinking Saudi Arabia while Arum was thinking more local.

But they all were on the same page regarding trying to ignore both the arbitration case and Wilder.

Arum, Hearn and fan-girl hysteria was sooo set on discounting ignoring and blotting out Wilder from ever making a 3rd attempt at fighting Fury that they thought their “ignoring” of the pending situation would work at discouraging and convincing Wilder to give up his chance at redemption....

They thought Wilder would be like, “what’s the use, I really did get destroyed, out-hustled, embarrassed, plus I used mad excuses, there’s no way I could possibly win after two “losses” to him....why should I even try?”.....Wilder ain’t susceptible to the fan hysteria crap and the “proceed without Wilder” greedy managerial games. Wilder knows how effective he could’ve been against Fury - even if he were to really have lost.....and that’s why he’s convinced Fury cheated.

If a nobody like me knew that a potential arbitration case could take place after the 2nd fight, from before they first fought, how could they (Hearn, Arum, Warren & Fury) just blatantly ignore that fact and act like the Joshua/Fury negotiations had minor adjustments for it to take off?

Wilder & the judge threw a wrench into their deceptive desperation mechanisms.

Trying to ignore Wilder & the case into submission was a very dumb, childish and presumptive thing to do.....they all ended up looking disjointed ****** even though they harped mostly on Wilders excuses, and much less on his substantial cheating claims that had much more credence to it.

[Ncfym00]

I believe he is referring to Hearn hiding from Fury's team that Usyk was going to sue them (Joshua/Hearn). Not Fury.

Usyk couldn't sue Fury's team, you idiot!

[Ncfym00]

I'm just looking for a good fight. Everybody knew there was arbitration before talk of unification. I won't fault Arum or Hearn for trying to go forward because it was bigger fight. But I also won't call Bob a liar for not knowing what the arbitrator is going to decide ahead of time. Lawyers can lose. They fought to bypass Wilder, but 3rd party said no.

I'm not a fan of Arum or Hearn, but I can understand this.

[GucciGod]

Bob dropped the ball on this himself. I’m a fury fan but I’m not wearing rose tinted glasses on arum.

both are extremely annoying (Arum & Hearn) but what I will say is that :

Eddie Hearn is more known and has more publicity than most of his fighters.

When we do hear or see him he’s never with a fighter telling us how great this young kids gonna be, it’s literally just about his company, how amazing of a job he’s done and how happy he is that his dad retired and handed down the controls!

How on earth does a promoter become more famous than his stable of fighters? #ModernDayDonKing

[GucciGod]

They ALL knew about the pending arbitration case. Their strategy was to talk and act like the case was non-existent. It’s just like Arum said, they weren’t communicating with each other. Hearn was thinking Saudi Arabia while Arum was thinking more local.

But they all were on the same page regarding trying to ignore both the arbitration case and Wilder.

Arum, Hearn and fan-girl hysteria was sooo set on discounting ignoring and blotting out Wilder from ever making a 3rd attempt at fighting Fury that they thought their “ignoring” of the pending situation would work at discouraging and convincing Wilder to give up his chance at redemption....

They thought Wilder would be like, “what’s the use, I really did get destroyed, out-hustled, embarrassed, plus I used mad excuses, there’s no way I could possibly win after two “losses” to him....why should I even try?”.....Wilder ain’t susceptible to the fan hysteria crap and the “proceed without Wilder” greedy managerial games. Wilder knows how effective he could’ve been against Fury - even if he were to really have lost.....and that’s why he’s convinced Fury cheated.

If a nobody like me knew that a potential arbitration case could take place after the 2nd fight, from before they first fought, how could they (Hearn, Arum, Warren & Fury) just blatantly ignore that fact and act like the Joshua/Fury negotiations had minor adjustments for it to take off?

Wilder & the judge threw a wrench into their deceptive desperation mechanisms.

Trying to ignore Wilder & the case into submission was a very dumb, childish and presumptive thing to do.....they all ended up looking disjointed ****** even though they harped mostly on Wilders excuses, and much less on his substantial cheating claims that had much more credence to it.

I swear you lost that soul of yours when wilder lost to fury last year. I really fear for you mentally heading into this 3rd fight, another KO loss for wilder surely signifies the end of your career alongside Deontay’s in boxing?

I get it, why lose to someone else, when fury can whip you for a lot of money, you can stick to those cheating claims, where as if he loses to someone other than fury, which is completely possible and very likely, then he couldn’t possibly just label them a cheater too!

if wilder or WHEN wilder gets starched again, I’m just hoping he takes this LOSS and accepts he lost to the better man. Fury simply has his number and he’s done with boxing should be his post fight soundbite and he can ride into the sunset with his bag of money!

[kafkod]

I believe he is referring to Hearn hiding from Fury's team that Usyk was going to sue them (Joshua/Hearn). Not Fury.

Usyk couldn't have sued Hearn and Joshua, that was just Frank Warren piling in to back up Arum's bull**** with some extra bull**** of his own. If the WBO gave permission for AJ to defend their belt against Fury instead of Usyk, then Usyk might have sued the WBO, but not AJ and Hearn.

[kafkod]

Why has nobody asked arum about the clause in the fury wilder contract that apparently the contract could have been cancelled last December and team Fury could have walked away from wilder with no repurcussions, as Eddie has been saying?

Tyson Fury's dad was pissed off about that too. Apparently, the arbitration ruling stated that Fury's team had passed on the option to terminate the agreement back in December.