What are the keys to victory for Pac and Cotto?

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  • Pullcounter
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    #21
    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
    that was the last time he weighed in on fight night.

    it was also his 1st or 2nd fight at 147.

    people gain weight as they get older......it's a safe assumption.

    cotto use to come in at 155 plus at 140. he was much younger and slimmer then.
    yes, the pic in my sig was from a long time ago. its very possible and probable that cotto is even heavier now than before.

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    • dans
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      #22
      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
      that was the last time he weighed in on fight night.

      it was also his 1st or 2nd fight at 147.

      people gain weight as they get older......it's a safe assumption.

      cotto use to come in at 155 plus at 140. he was much younger and slimmer then.
      Is that true?

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      • WhoreUs
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        #23
        Originally posted by dans01234
        Is that true?
        as far as i know.

        he doesn't weigh in fight night. that fight pull has on his sig is the last time.

        when did he fight urkal? 3-4 years ago? i know it was when he barely moved up to 147.

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          #24
          Cotto: Use the stiff jab often to keep pac far enough away so as to avoid the devastating inside combo's thrown at all angles. Keep close quarters confrontations to the ropes and not the middle of the ring where it'll be easier for pac to get in his shots and retreat. While at close range, pulverize the body/arms/shoulder/whatever happens to be in the line of fire. Use feints to the head to open up shots to the body. Plan B: Open up the stance and invite him in. Once inside, get physical. Stay in his face, push him around. Make it an ugly affair and hopefully land a few monster blows to finish the job.

          Pac: Use the first two rounds to move Cotto around and get a feel for his gameplan. Use the jab or the straight right to get inside, get off slick 3-4 shot combinations and move away. Keep the fight in the middle of the ring but even if Cotto is cutting effectively, be first to attack pumping the straight left into his face, getting inside then turning him. Plan B: World-runner/clincher. Pot shots and smart inside defense and timely clinching. Hope for Cotto to make a mistake or tire (which history has shown is probable). Then take advantage.

          Because of size, Cotto has more options and so if Joe does his homework and has any strategic skill, I see Cotto winning this one. I don't like the "piece it together in the ring" freestyle mentality that Cotto has used in the past. Having a large playbook is not the same as having no playbook. And even with a large repertoire you'd want an "opponent specific" gameplan.

          That being said, I think if Manny overwhelms Cotto early with speed and some strong flush shots, he might be able to get inside his head and bring back the memories of him getting "plasterred"! LOL

          Oh well what do I know! Can't wait til fight night!

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          • dans
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            #25
            Originally posted by Mr._Pink
            as far as i know.

            he doesn't weigh in fight night. that fight pull has on his sig is the last time.

            when did he fight urkal? 3-4 years ago? i know it was when he barely moved up to 147.
            Yeah, it's an interesting thought. Why doesn't he weigh in on fight night?

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              #26
              Originally posted by dans01234
              Yeah, it's an interesting thought. Why doesn't he weigh in on fight night?
              i don't know.

              the cotto guys say it's because the nysac doesn't allow fight night weigh ins.

              that's bs though because i see fights in ny show unofficial fight night weights all the time.

              plus when cotto fought in vegas , there still was no fight night weights.

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                #27
                Cotto
                1) hope PAC underestimates you
                2) pray that you dont gas out after 5 rounds
                3) somehow get PAC to wear Winning Gloves
                4) take a knee everytime you see that left straight coming




                PAC
                1) just show up

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Makavelli
                  Cotto
                  1) hope PAC underestimates you
                  2) pray that you dont gas out after 5 rounds
                  3) somehow get PAC to wear Winning Gloves
                  4) take a knee everytime you see that left straight coming




                  PAC
                  1) just show up
                  you're such a cotto hater.



                  btw......peter king picked my bears to go to the bowl.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                    you're such a cotto hater.



                    btw......peter king picked my bears to go to the bowl.




                    i'm giving up on football.....until Al Davis dies



                    true story

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                    • dans
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Makavelli
                      Cotto
                      1) hope PAC underestimates you
                      2) pray that you dont gas out after 5 rounds
                      3) somehow get PAC to wear Winning Gloves
                      4) take a knee everytime you see that left straight coming




                      PAC
                      1) just show up
                      Typical response from a typical Zilla hugger.

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