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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Stop dreaming kid. While your at it you need to ask yourself why Floyd was considered no1 pfp, when Pac had much better wins than him? Pac had beaten barrrea, morales and jmm. Who had Floyd beat at same point in time?
    like I posted, every set of ATG rankings has Floyd ahead of Manny, and this was before they fought.

    you disagree only because you like manny. If you did an objective analysis, you’d remember manny had losses while Floyd didn’t. Losses count when factoring ATG rankings.

    Floyd had defeated corrales, Castillo 2x and hadn’t lost. Manny had lost at least 3 times, beating morales only after he lost to him and morales got destroyed by zahir Raheem .

    Floyd absolutely deserved to be ranked ahead nad showed that when they fought.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      Stop dreaming kid. While your at it you need to ask yourself why Floyd was considered no1 pfp, when Pac had much better wins than him? Pac had beaten barrrea, morales and jmm. Who had Floyd beat at same point in time?
      He also lost to Morales (whom lost to Raheem his next fight and lost to Diaz straight after Pacquiao) and had questionable decisions over JMM. Mayweather was outclassing everyone at the time. Losses do get taken in to consideration.
      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 06-05-2021, 10:28 AM.

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      • Shadoww702
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        #13
        Originally posted by deathofaclown

        Lol that’s ridiculous

        His last fight was the first guy he had fought in the boxrec top 100

        By those standards, It would be hard to even make a case for him proving he’s in the top 50, considering his level of opposition
        I'm not seeing him ranked in the top 10 at Ring???

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        • hugh grant
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          #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          like I posted, every set of ATG rankings has Floyd ahead of Manny, and this was before they fought.

          you disagree only because you like manny. If you did an objective analysis, you’d remember manny had losses while Floyd didn’t. Losses count when factoring ATG rankings.

          Floyd had defeated corrales, Castillo 2x and hadn’t lost. Manny had lost at least 3 times, beating morales only after he lost to him and morales got destroyed by zahir Raheem .

          Floyd absolutely deserved to be ranked ahead nad showed that when they fought.
          I'm sure you've seen a few polls like espn which had Floyd ahead of Pac a while back. But.most people you hear in boxing be it great former champions, trainers have Pac extremely high, We are talking alongside srr, Ali company.
          Its your responsibility to write letters of protest to those organisations that you don't agree with them and you think they got it wrong and that they just need to take blinkers off and see how put on a pedestal Pac is to his peers.

          I don't think barrera, jcc, Paul malignaggi, and myself etc etc have Pac so high because Pac is liked.
          Pac had beaten better fighters than floyd or beat them more dominantly so of course should have been higher. Yes Pac lost to morales but !morales was greater than anyone Floyd fought so that's no barrier to Pac being above floyd
          Last edited by hugh grant; 06-05-2021, 05:36 PM.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #15
            Originally posted by hugh grant

            I'm sure you've seen a few polls like espn which had Floyd ahead of Pac a while back. But.most people you hear in boxing be it great former champions, trainers have Pac extremely high, We are talking alongside srr, Ali company.
            Its your responsibility to write letters of protest to those organisations that you don't agree with them and you think they got it wrong and that they just need to take blinkers off and see how put on a pedestal Pac is to his peers.

            I don't think barrera, jcc, Paul malignaggi, and myself etc etc have Pac so high because Pac is liked.
            Pac had beaten better fighters than floyd or beat them more dominantly so of course should have been higher. Yes Pac lost to morales but !morales was greater than anyone Floyd fought so that's no barrier to Pac being above floyd
            You’re lying again.

            You posted morales was greater than anyone Floyd fought. Floyd fought Manny. So morales is better than Manny, even though manny beat him twice.

            dude you’re an ass clown. You keep trying to shift and shape things to make manny better . You will never be able to.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-06-2021, 08:06 AM.

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            • hugh grant
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              #16
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Your lying again.

              You posted morales was greater than anyone Floyd fought. Floyd fought Manny. So morales is better than Manny, even though manny beat him twice.

              dude you’re an ass clown. You keep trying to shift and shape things to make manny better . You will never be able to.
              You need to follow the line of debate don't go off on tangent. Im not talking about Floyd's win over PAC. I'm talking about PAC should've been No1 pfp when he was beating Morales, Barrera, jmm or beating common opponents more dominantly

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              • Earl-Hickey
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                #17
                I dont pay any attention to them anymore. I even shrug my shoulders when someone wins the ring belt.

                They have sold out all legitimacy and without that they are nothing since they aren't even a sanctioning body.

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                • asgarth
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702

                  I'm not seeing him ranked in the top 10 at Ring???
                  Probably replaced by gongora. But he definitely was ranked #10 earlier this year.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by asgarth

                    Probably replaced by gongora. But he definitely was ranked #10 earlier this year.
                    Berlanga was at #10 back in February through April per Wayback, can't be arsed digging to exactly when he was replaced but yeah I'd assume it was after Gongora's win over Pearson in mid April.

                    https://web.archive.org/web/20210302...eightclass=275

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by hugh grant

                      You need to follow the line of debate don't go off on tangent. Im not talking about Floyd's win over PAC. I'm talking about PAC should've been No1 pfp when he was beating Morales, Barrera, jmm or beating common opponents more dominantly
                      Again he had lost to Morales already and morales had just got decimated by Raheem the fight before. He drew with jmm the 1st fight.

                      you’re biased as f-ck but even a pac cum gobbler like you can’t think he deserved to be #1 p4p after beating morales coming off a huge loss and drawing with jmm.

                      He also didn’t beat common opponents more dominating. He didn’t fight 154 lb odh or cotto, or 147 lb hatton. You are exaggerating to try and give manny an edge. Will not work.

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