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i hope jmm's big heart and fyting spirit can give him the W.
it is very hard but never impossible....
a win is his only chance to get revenge on manny.
cotto can beat manny but the 3rd dance is still an affair to watch.
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I truly hope JMM wins come SEPT 19 just read article and this is the reason you should put your money on JMM "Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival." WAR DINAMITA !!!!!
1) SIZE
Yes, it is very true that Mayweather has a tremendous advantage in size. He has been fighting as a true welterweight for some time, and at this age the weight had fully embraced him. Marquez is clearly the midget here. Marquez gives up weight, height, and reach.
But what is the point of having all the advantages that size offers? It of course is to dominate your opponent with power. Mayweather has never been the imposing type of fighter, as he was bred to be a boxer and a counter-puncher. Why does he think size offers an advantage to the counter-puncher? Is he thinking about how he was able to nullify Ricky Hatton with his size?
But he should note that Marquez is not a hold-and-punch, rough-and-push type of fighter like Hatton, who was the perfect prey to the bigger and more skilled Mayweather. Size doesn’t matter against Marquez. He cannot hurt Marquez with his size, he cannot rough-up Marquez with his size, and he certainly cannot nullify Marquez with his size like he did Hatton because Marquez never seeks to hold. So size doesn’t matter here.
2) SKILLS
It is very true that Mayweather is one of the greatest defensive fighters possibly of all time. He is extremely hard to find, and awfully difficult to land punches on. But remember that he had trouble with Mexican styled boxers in the past. With his square-on stance and high work rate, Jose Luis Castillo nearly beat him on one occasion. Also, in the fight that could be defined as the ugliest of the decade, Mayweather vs. De La Hoya, Floyd found himself struggling to cope with the style. Even though Floyd won both of those fights, it was because he was able to pinpoint and pick his spots, not because he had the ring generalship.
In Marquez Floyd will find a highly skilled boxer, who is more technically sound than the two fighters that I’ve just mentioned. Marquez is a supremely skilled fighter when it comes to boxing in distance. He can close gaps to land his punches, and can retreat and pivot like a master matador if need be. He is also a skilled inside fighter when the situation requires him to be.
3) POWER
This is one sided. Marquez hurts his opponents on the regular, and his smaller stature will not halt his power against Mayweather
4) SPEED
This will be even.
Marquez will be relatively slow as he is forced to gain a tremendous amount of weight to face Floyd. However, one should consider the bigger Floyd’s regular work-rate, as he is not known to unleash *******s of punches, but rather only a few at a time. This will be in contrast to Marquez’s constant attempts to engage efficiently.
Even with the added weight, I conclude, Marquez will be able to match or exceed Floyd’s work-rate and speed.
5) HEART
This is also one sided.
Marquez made himself by challenging the best and the riskiest. He is not known to make safe, “money” decisions to avoid fighters. He showed his willingness to fight hometown fighters, completely ignoring the biased judges. Marquez believes in himself. He will never question his own heart and hesitate.
Remember that Marquez possibly is the fighter with the best recovery capacity. His wars with Pacquiao can be the witness to his heart. Floyd, on the other hand, had never been seriously hurt or had to force himself to recover for the next round after knockdowns.
6) INTANGIBLES
Whatever advantages Floyd have going into this fight, they will be neutralized by the aforementioned factors. Also let us remember that Floyd is rusty, coming off of a year long layoff, witnessed by his brittle ribs covered by the fancy body armor.
Also, it seems that the whole world is underestimating his dangerous opponent, laying the perfect siege for a huge upset. He doesn’t seem to realize that he is not fighting just another Hatton or a Baldomir. He is fighting the highest skilled Mexican warrior-fighter of the past ten years, arguably.
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Originally posted by htown_boxingfan View PostI truly hope JMM wins come SEPT 19 just read article and this is the reason you should put your money on JMM "Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival." WAR DINAMITA !!!!!
1) SIZE
Yes, it is very true that Mayweather has a tremendous advantage in size. He has been fighting as a true welterweight for some time, and at this age the weight had fully embraced him. Marquez is clearly the midget here. Marquez gives up weight, height, and reach.
But what is the point of having all the advantages that size offers? It of course is to dominate your opponent with power. Mayweather has never been the imposing type of fighter, as he was bred to be a boxer and a counter-puncher. Why does he think size offers an advantage to the counter-puncher? Is he thinking about how he was able to nullify Ricky Hatton with his size?
But he should note that Marquez is not a hold-and-punch, rough-and-push type of fighter like Hatton, who was the perfect prey to the bigger and more skilled Mayweather. Size doesn’t matter against Marquez. He cannot hurt Marquez with his size, he cannot rough-up Marquez with his size, and he certainly cannot nullify Marquez with his size like he did Hatton because Marquez never seeks to hold. So size doesn’t matter here.
2) SKILLS
It is very true that Mayweather is one of the greatest defensive fighters possibly of all time. He is extremely hard to find, and awfully difficult to land punches on. But remember that he had trouble with Mexican styled boxers in the past. With his square-on stance and high work rate, Jose Luis Castillo nearly beat him on one occasion. Also, in the fight that could be defined as the ugliest of the decade, Mayweather vs. De La Hoya, Floyd found himself struggling to cope with the style. Even though Floyd won both of those fights, it was because he was able to pinpoint and pick his spots, not because he had the ring generalship.
In Marquez Floyd will find a highly skilled boxer, who is more technically sound than the two fighters that I’ve just mentioned. Marquez is a supremely skilled fighter when it comes to boxing in distance. He can close gaps to land his punches, and can retreat and pivot like a master matador if need be. He is also a skilled inside fighter when the situation requires him to be.
3) POWER
This is one sided. Marquez hurts his opponents on the regular, and his smaller stature will not halt his power against Mayweather
4) SPEED
This will be even.
Marquez will be relatively slow as he is forced to gain a tremendous amount of weight to face Floyd. However, one should consider the bigger Floyd’s regular work-rate, as he is not known to unleash *******s of punches, but rather only a few at a time. This will be in contrast to Marquez’s constant attempts to engage efficiently.
Even with the added weight, I conclude, Marquez will be able to match or exceed Floyd’s work-rate and speed.
5) HEART
This is also one sided.
Marquez made himself by challenging the best and the riskiest. He is not known to make safe, “money” decisions to avoid fighters. He showed his willingness to fight hometown fighters, completely ignoring the biased judges. Marquez believes in himself. He will never question his own heart and hesitate.
Remember that Marquez possibly is the fighter with the best recovery capacity. His wars with Pacquiao can be the witness to his heart. Floyd, on the other hand, had never been seriously hurt or had to force himself to recover for the next round after knockdowns.
6) INTANGIBLES
Whatever advantages Floyd have going into this fight, they will be neutralized by the aforementioned factors. Also let us remember that Floyd is rusty, coming off of a year long layoff, witnessed by his brittle ribs covered by the fancy body armor.
Also, it seems that the whole world is underestimating his dangerous opponent, laying the perfect siege for a huge upset. He doesn’t seem to realize that he is not fighting just another Hatton or a Baldomir. He is fighting the highest skilled Mexican warrior-fighter of the past ten years, arguably.
Mexican balls the size of EPCOT Center...
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Juan Manuel Marquez is a warrior in the ring. He fights with his heart. The only problem with this fight on Sept. 19th is.... He is fighting the wrong guy.
Floyd "Money" Mayweather will too much! Juan Manuel Marquez is a "Good" fighter. Floyd "Money" Mayweather is a "Great" fighter. There is a difference!
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Originally posted by htown_boxingfan View PostI truly hope JMM wins come SEPT 19 just read article and this is the reason you should put your money on JMM "Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival." WAR DINAMITA !!!!!
1) SIZE
Yes, it is very true that Mayweather has a tremendous advantage in size. He has been fighting as a true welterweight for some time, and at this age the weight had fully embraced him. Marquez is clearly the midget here. Marquez gives up weight, height, and reach.
But what is the point of having all the advantages that size offers? It of course is to dominate your opponent with power. Mayweather has never been the imposing type of fighter, as he was bred to be a boxer and a counter-puncher. Why does he think size offers an advantage to the counter-puncher? Is he thinking about how he was able to nullify Ricky Hatton with his size?
But he should note that Marquez is not a hold-and-punch, rough-and-push type of fighter like Hatton, who was the perfect prey to the bigger and more skilled Mayweather. Size doesn’t matter against Marquez. He cannot hurt Marquez with his size, he cannot rough-up Marquez with his size, and he certainly cannot nullify Marquez with his size like he did Hatton because Marquez never seeks to hold. So size doesn’t matter here.
2) SKILLS
It is very true that Mayweather is one of the greatest defensive fighters possibly of all time. He is extremely hard to find, and awfully difficult to land punches on. But remember that he had trouble with Mexican styled boxers in the past. With his square-on stance and high work rate, Jose Luis Castillo nearly beat him on one occasion. Also, in the fight that could be defined as the ugliest of the decade, Mayweather vs. De La Hoya, Floyd found himself struggling to cope with the style. Even though Floyd won both of those fights, it was because he was able to pinpoint and pick his spots, not because he had the ring generalship.
In Marquez Floyd will find a highly skilled boxer, who is more technically sound than the two fighters that I’ve just mentioned. Marquez is a supremely skilled fighter when it comes to boxing in distance. He can close gaps to land his punches, and can retreat and pivot like a master matador if need be. He is also a skilled inside fighter when the situation requires him to be.
3) POWER
This is one sided. Marquez hurts his opponents on the regular, and his smaller stature will not halt his power against Mayweather
4) SPEED
This will be even.
Marquez will be relatively slow as he is forced to gain a tremendous amount of weight to face Floyd. However, one should consider the bigger Floyd’s regular work-rate, as he is not known to unleash *******s of punches, but rather only a few at a time. This will be in contrast to Marquez’s constant attempts to engage efficiently.
Even with the added weight, I conclude, Marquez will be able to match or exceed Floyd’s work-rate and speed.
5) HEART
This is also one sided.
Marquez made himself by challenging the best and the riskiest. He is not known to make safe, “money” decisions to avoid fighters. He showed his willingness to fight hometown fighters, completely ignoring the biased judges. Marquez believes in himself. He will never question his own heart and hesitate.
Remember that Marquez possibly is the fighter with the best recovery capacity. His wars with Pacquiao can be the witness to his heart. Floyd, on the other hand, had never been seriously hurt or had to force himself to recover for the next round after knockdowns.
6) INTANGIBLES
Whatever advantages Floyd have going into this fight, they will be neutralized by the aforementioned factors. Also let us remember that Floyd is rusty, coming off of a year long layoff, witnessed by his brittle ribs covered by the fancy body armor.
Also, it seems that the whole world is underestimating his dangerous opponent, laying the perfect siege for a huge upset. He doesn’t seem to realize that he is not fighting just another Hatton or a Baldomir. He is fighting the highest skilled Mexican warrior-fighter of the past ten years, arguably.
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Surprise me Juan !!!!!!! I am pulling for ya ! Your a great fighter Mang ! YOU CAN DO THIS MANG ! ITs YORE TIME TO SHINE !!!!!!! SHINE MANG SHINE !!!!!!!!
This article better be the truth, cause it did what it was meant to do , and thats put LIFE IN THIS FIGHT ! IT WAS DEAD ! I was ready to watch it as a after thought like a week after if HBO showed it.
I loathe the thought of putting money in May jr pocket but surely don't mind putting some in Juan MM pocket. He delivers! HE DON'T LIE !!!!!
He is game , he won't QUIT !!!!! I would be totally surprised if he QUIT ! I won't be surprised if Mayweather QUIT, its in his genes !!!!!! IF THE SKILLS ARE IN HIS GENES , {his dad and uncle} then the POSSIBILTY of him QUITING are there as well , RIGHT !????? Quitting is surely a trait , right ?? Take the Mayweathers, they all are look alikes, thats genes ! Talk alike ! Fight alike ! SKILLS ALIKE and might QUIT alike !!!! Jr. has not been to the place like Cotto has, and its possible that a 144 pound mexican who is game as they come with new power and toughness might just do something that will make many of you empty yore bowels during the fight !!!!!!! He needs to get there and then we will KNOW if he can really take it. Castillo whipped him in the first fight, the judges robbed Castillo, just like they did Pauli M the other day with Diaz. But Castillo was not busy enough to take him to the place where Elite fighters go in the so called pressure cooker , the trenches , the gates of HELL , it would be most interesting to see if he would QUIT like his Uncle Roger QUIT ! Roger was Quitting just the round before he QUIT, if you watch the tape of the second fight with Chavez you will see him try to bluff Chavez with the "ALI SHUFFLE", all bluff , just like """"TALK"""" is BLUFF !!!!! A trait of the Mayweathers but Bluff is a BADDDDDDDDD Sign "Nothos", BUT IT DIDN"T WORK and he QUIT, a Classic STOPPAGE OF HEART !!!!!!! That came from within, he wasn't crawlin scrachin , he wasn't all that hurt, his MIND was BROKE , his HEART was broke , he KNEW he committed Boxing unpardonable sin that is to QUIT, so he hung his head !
What has this to do with JR ???????? Probably not much , BUT, the GENES are THERE ,,,,,,,, it is for everything else from the Mayweathers including super ugly, smiles, just might be , all the talk Jr. does is Bluff , HIS """""""SKILL LEVEL"""""""" KEEPS BOXERS FROM EXPLOITING THOSE GENES THAT SAYS " ITS TIME TO QUIT " !!!!!!!!!!! All his outward signs show weaknessess , talk , the I'm bad act , etc.. poor feller is full of insecurities , trying to find hope in money , bragging , a good whuppin , warming up that head will hep the boy !! LETS ALL PULL FOR GOOD OLE JMM !!!!!!!
GO JUAN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Htown,
You are right, physical disadvantages aside, this is the best fighter that Mayweather has ever faced. But there's a small contradiction in the arguments you're making.
I agree with you, Marquez will not fight a rough/push fight but that's exactly what gave Castillo so much success. DLH would have been just as effective if his work rate were higher and he'd used his jab.
I'm pulling for Marquez but Mayweather has an insurmountable physical advantage. While he wont use his size to mount attacks, the size difference is significant, and it will allow him to absorb most of Marquez's punches. If Marquez wins, it will be by decision and not KO, given the physical disadvantage, correct?. But think about that, wouldn't that be the most improbable outcome? Outpointing Floyd Mayweather for 7 of 12 rounds?
Mayweather makes his dollars off movement and potshots, not actual fighting.
I just hope that these two counter-punchers don't turn out a snoozer because they're both waiting on the other...Last edited by mexpwr915; 09-02-2009, 10:44 AM.
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