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  • #51
    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

    If you drop a belt to avoid a mandatory, it's a duck. Regardless of if you're too sensitive to admit it.
    Could also say it's a duck if Usyk turns down a good offer. Both sides will claim the other ducked.

    I expect the fight to happen but if it doesn't, I expect Joshua to fight the Fury/Wilder winner and the winner of that to fight for the WBO and undisputed.

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    • #52
      Rapscallion, among them top he is Fury, Wilder more active than AJ? I needed an answer.

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      • #53
        If it goes to purse bid there will be no rematch clause..That's the sticking point for team AJ

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        • #54
          Usyk is dangerous. If Joshua wins, that's the best win of his career. Klitschko was 41.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post

            Could also say it's a duck if Usyk turns down a good offer. Both sides will claim the other ducked.

            I expect the fight to happen but if it doesn't, I expect Joshua to fight the Fury/Wilder winner and the winner of that to fight for the WBO and undisputed.
            If Usyk is willing to take it to a purse bid, then this has nothing to do with dollars.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Rapscallion View Post

              Joshua should fight mandatories, but he should also fight other worthy opponents. Joshua hasn't been very active so far in his career and likely never will be. As for Joshua fighting Usyk, I hope that you are right, but I don't expect that to happen.
              Fair enough. I wouldn't class Joshua as very active either -- I'd say he is similarly active to most other fighters at his level. For the high profile champs, fighting twice a year is standard. This leaves little room outside mandatories if you hold three belts. In conclusion, I'd say the issue is more with the sanctioning bodies than it is with Joshua.
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              • #57
                Originally posted by Rapscallion View Post
                BOXVIEWER: "And you AJ hater are filling a whole space with bs and hatred. Get a life before you collapse on your keyboard!"

                Answer: Jerry Quarry, Oscar Bonavena, and Joe Frazier (combined records of 109/10/5). Question: Following the termination of his three and one-half year suspension from boxing, which three men did Muhammad Ali fight between 10/26/70 and 3/08/71, a period of less than five full months? As I have lived through that era of boxing, an era where fighting champions were actively seeking to fight the best opponents in a timely fashion, do you honestly expect me to tolerate the unscrupulous self-centered tactics employed by Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua to manipulate heavyweight boxing? Do you expect me to ignore this behavior? Do you expect me to affiliate with Joshua's Legion of Imbeciles applauding and supporting these antics? Do you expect me to refrain from posting criticism of Hearn and Joshua's behavior? If you do, then you not only don't care about boxing, but you are also aiding and abetting Hearn and Joshua, two men who have exploited boxing at every opportunity.
                Okay, I GET what you are saying. That era of boxing was better. You know what else? It was the only way to make money. Big fights on the networks, with huge crowds paying huge gates. There was not 3 streaming services, premium cable outlets, pay-per-views, or an other of those options. OF COURSE that era was better.

                But if you are going back 30-40 years to prove a point, than you do not have an argument in the present. Joshua's record for THIS era of HW is better, fighter for fighter, than Fury or Wilder. It is NOT a great resume, but it is a decent one in this era of all top fighters avoiding each other. And it is a tragic thing at every class. Still waiting on Beterbiev against Bivol. Still waiting on Spence and Crawford. Could come up with more, but this era has so many ways to make fighters money that it is a useless argument.

                I think Usyk and Joshua gets signed. This is just posturing from each camp ("we will not go to purse bid. They have to sign" "Are they brave enough to get dethroned?") to get their fighter the best deal they can and build the fight to be as appealing as possible to get views. But even if it doesn't, it is likely both fighters make a ton of money in their next fights anyways. It is the curse of this modern age.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Satir View Post
                  both are olympic gold winners, both are regarded as the best of their generation, the fight should happen, clear duck if it doesnt, i'll blame every****ingbody
                  Okay, THAT is totally fair. And I will crawl up on the soapbox with ya.

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                  • #59
                    Well it’s pretty easy to tell that AJ is just a side piece for ol Fast Eddy. Hearn needs to place AJ in with Uysk IMO. I think that Uysk has a damn better than average chance of upsetting AJ, that’s what is causing the fear and possibility of AJ chunking the belt I the trash.
                    Really said if you marinate on it for a bit.
                    Let it be a reality boys

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                    • #60
                      dont ever question joshuas courage, didnt he go to the states and take out the feared wilder???? huh!!! oh wait sorry that was fury

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