Pacquiao is one of the few fighters who gets credit for losing

[LeOoze]

You and I both know that Pacquiao will lose to Spence come August, and he may even lose badly. But his super stans are already trying to give imaginary points for him taking this fight.

"Oh wow, Pacquiao is a legend for fighting a prime undefeated fighter!". And while that's cool, he needs to win. Meanwhile, his stans are already quick to say that he's washed, way past his prime/over the hill, already lost so many times so it doesn't matter if he loses. So if he's washed, why take this fight? It's absolutely meaningless and you don't get any credit for showing up to the ring to lose.

Now let's say the Pac loses a competitive fight in a non-controversial 113-115 decision, I would give credit for Pac giving a fighter like Spence a run for his money. Spence is a great fighter and definitely the top Welterweight today IMO, and he's worthy of top 5 p4p.

If Pac won that would be a fantastic win, and definitely be his best win at 147 lbs, and one of his best wins in general, maybe his best given all the circumstances surrounding it. Being 42, 2 year lay off, etc.,

That being said, Spence isn't an ATG as of yet. No way can Manny be automatically top 3 of all time just because he beats Spence. Spence is great, but not great enough where it would absolutely catapult/cement Manny into GOAT status. Maybe if Pac KO'd spence in like round 1 just because that'd be insane, but even then.

Imagine if Floyd were to come out of retirement. Despite being 44 and retired for the past 6 years, if he went up and fought Spence, Bud, Porter, etc., and LOST, all of his haters would be having a field day and using that as their argument for Floyd being underrated or lesser than Manny. They'll excuse Pac, but not Floyd. It just makes no sense.

[Spoon23]

You and I both know that Pacquiao will lose to Spence come August, and he may even lose badly. But his super stans are already trying to give imaginary points for him taking this fight.

"Oh wow, Pacquiao is a legend for fighting a prime undefeated fighter!". And while that's cool, he needs to win. Meanwhile, his stans are already quick to say that he's washed, way past his prime/over the hill, already lost so many times so it doesn't matter if he loses. So if he's washed, why take this fight? It's absolutely meaningless and you don't get any credit for showing up to the ring to lose.

Now let's say the Pac loses a competitive fight in a non-controversial 113-115 decision, I would give credit for Pac giving a fighter like Spence a run for his money. Spence is a great fighter and definitely the top Welterweight today IMO, and he's worthy of top 5 p4p.

If Pac won that would be a fantastic win, and definitely be his best win at 147 lbs, and one of his best wins in general, maybe his best given all the circumstances surrounding it. Being 42, 2 year lay off, etc.,

That being said, Spence isn't an ATG as of yet. No way can Manny be automatically top 3 of all time just because he beats Spence. Spence is great, but not great enough where it would absolutely catapult/cement Manny into GOAT status. Maybe if Pac KO'd spence in like round 1 just because that'd be insane, but even then.

Imagine if Floyd were to come out of retirement. Despite being 44 and retired for the past 6 years, if he went up and fought Spence, Bud, Porter, etc., and LOST, all of his haters would be having a field day and using that as their argument for Floyd being underrated or lesser than Manny. They'll excuse Pac, but not Floyd. It just makes no sense.

That's the problem that's a big IF. Fiction buddy look it up. Floyd took the easy road now..

He's into circus shows now. Nothing wrong with that, but fantasy isn't reality. You are only good at what you put up in your resume'

He didn't want to challenge himself. What ifs doesn't apply to your place in history bud. It's what you accomplished in real life.

[PeepeePoopooMan]

you're that mad Pacquiao is chasing greatness while froid is chasing youtubers. Stay mad loser

[LeOoze]

That's the problem that's a big IF. Fiction buddy look it up. Floyd took the easy road now..

He's into circus shows now. Nothing wrong with that, but fantasy isn't reality. You are only good at what you put up in your resume'

He didn't want to challenge himself. What ifs doesn't apply to your place in history bud. It's what you accomplished in real life.

Floyd took the easy road after going 48-0. He's allowed to do that. His legacy is set in stone. He doesn't need to fight top fighters at 40+ because his resume is amazing. I agree you are only good at what you put up in your resume, and his resume is MUCH better than Pac's, and him beating Pac solidifies that. And he did that without losing to bums and no-hopers like Pac did.

you're that mad Pacquiao is chasing greatness while froid is chasing youtubers. Stay mad loser

Pacquiao chased greatness when he fought Floyd, but lost. Sure he's chasing greatness with Spence, but you and I both know he'll come short.

[Spoon23]

Floyd took the easy road after going 48-0. He's allowed to do that. His legacy is set in stone. He doesn't need to fight top fighters at 40+ because his resume is amazing. I agree you are only good at what you put up in your resume, and his resume is MUCH better than Pac's, and him beating Pac solidifies that. And he did that without losing to bums and no-hopers like Pac did.



Pacquiao chased greatness when he fought Floyd, but lost. Sure he's chasing greatness with Spence, but you and I both know he'll come short.

Naah, not really.. Pac's greatness is still being written.. Floyd stopped when he retired.

Besides.. We all know Floyd won a fluke win..

Let's see..

IVs in his system - check (that alone is an instant DQ and invalidates his win but as the story goes vegas saves the golden goose that lays the golden egg)
Uncle Roger/Coach wants a rematch coz he thinks there's unfinished business - check
Half of the world saw a fluke win - check
Floyd wants a rematch but has cold feet ( meaning he knows himself it's a fluke ) - Check
Foyd's own father wanted him to retire after the fight and saw him fight like a ****** as he told himself in the corner your fighting scared son - check
Floyd fans saw a Marathon hug fest - check

Just to name a few..

But that said, the ship has sailed. Floyd had a chance to prove the doubters wrong this past years.. But he settled in he decided to go the easy route and use his talents in a circus show. That's just how it is. Nothing wrong with that. It just smells c-unt that's all.

Floyd Mayweather: " I owe them for the Pacquiao fight "

LINK:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.89dc0b6bea1b



A BOXER in the TMT GYM goes, PACQUIAO MAYWEATHER!



EVEN IN THE TMT GYM THEY KNOW IT WAS A FLUKE WIN, A ROBBERY LOLOLOLOLOL

Starts @ 0:45

And to END all conversation about this shyit..

LOOK AT THE FACE OF THE GREAT MICHAEL JORDAN.

SAYS IT ALL RIGHT HERE. FUVKIN' FLUKE WIN.



# airness knows how legacy is done and having to do a boring ass marathon and winning like a fluke election win like Sleepy joe ***** won a fake election isn't how to win.

[PeepeePoopooMan]

Pacquiao chased greatness when he fought Floyd, but lost. Sure he's chasing greatness with Spence, but you and I both know he'll come short.

Yeah because beating froid would of made him great. Not his resume or overall career. No, he had to froid to be great dumbass

[TernceBudCharlo]

You and I both know that Pacquiao will lose to Spence come August, and he may even lose badly. But his super stans are already trying to give imaginary points for him taking this fight.

"Oh wow, Pacquiao is a legend for fighting a prime undefeated fighter!". And while that's cool, he needs to win. Meanwhile, his stans are already quick to say that he's washed, way past his prime/over the hill, already lost so many times so it doesn't matter if he loses. So if he's washed, why take this fight? It's absolutely meaningless and you don't get any credit for showing up to the ring to lose.

Now let's say the Pac loses a competitive fight in a non-controversial 113-115 decision, I would give credit for Pac giving a fighter like Spence a run for his money. Spence is a great fighter and definitely the top Welterweight today IMO, and he's worthy of top 5 p4p.

If Pac won that would be a fantastic win, and definitely be his best win at 147 lbs, and one of his best wins in general, maybe his best given all the circumstances surrounding it. Being 42, 2 year lay off, etc.,

That being said, Spence isn't an ATG as of yet. No way can Manny be automatically top 3 of all time just because he beats Spence. Spence is great, but not great enough where it would absolutely catapult/cement Manny into GOAT status. Maybe if Pac KO'd spence in like round 1 just because that'd be insane, but even then.

Imagine if Floyd were to come out of retirement. Despite being 44 and retired for the past 6 years, if he went up and fought Spence, Bud, Porter, etc., and LOST, all of his haters would be having a field day and using that as their argument for Floyd being underrated or lesser than Manny. They'll excuse Pac, but not Floyd. It just makes no sense.

He gets credit because we are in an era of boxing where all of the big names are terrified and won't fight young hungry lions like EJ. I gave Hopkins credit when he fought Kovalev even though he lost.

[BodyBagz]

Pac also gets full credit for fighting bums and worst versions of guys.

[DaNeutral.]

This is what some ppl can’t seem to understand, he isn’t getting credit for winning or losing he is getting credit for the challenges taken. We all know Floyd is an ATG even if some don’t like to admit it cuz they are salty but we also all know Floyd was about picking the opposition at soft times, match making smart and Pacquiao is more about taking on the biggest challenges at what ever time they happen to be available.

[BodyBagz]

This is what some ppl can’t seem to understand, he isn’t getting credit for winning or losing he is getting credit for the challenges taken. We all know Floyd is an ATG even if some don’t like to admit it cuz they are salty but we also all know Floyd was about picking the opposition at soft times, match making smart and Pacquiao is more about taking on the biggest challenges at what ever time they happen to be available.

In between Morales (shop worn) and Thurman (inactive), name a credible fighter Pac BEAT