Pacquiao is one of the few fighters who gets credit for losing

[Boxing-1013]

Bruh, you are talking to a special kid.. Not worth the time. FYI

The funny thing is he literally agreed with me yesterday on the type of thing he is trying to argue against now, lol. As you said, he is very special

[Boxing-1013]

GGG built the PRIME part of ''career'' fighting and beating guys NO ONE should get credit for fighting and beating !!!!

He finally ste....aw fu ck. A fan boy is gonna fan boy.

Yes, you certainly are that, lol

[BodyBagz]

Like I said, you of all people, literally chimed in to agree with me about how we shouldn't overrate wins over shot/past prime/fat fighters, as opposed to wins over solid pros in their primes/best weights. So yeah one of us is laughing buddy, lol

You must be an idiot, or a drunk, lol

Prior to fighting Nelo, name a credible GGG win.

[Pac=Duran]

You and I both know that Pacquiao will lose to Spence come August, and he may even lose badly. But his super stans are already trying to give imaginary points for him taking this fight.

"Oh wow, Pacquiao is a legend for fighting a prime undefeated fighter!". And while that's cool, he needs to win. Meanwhile, his stans are already quick to say that he's washed, way past his prime/over the hill, already lost so many times so it doesn't matter if he loses. So if he's washed, why take this fight? It's absolutely meaningless and you don't get any credit for showing up to the ring to lose.

Now let's say the Pac loses a competitive fight in a non-controversial 113-115 decision, I would give credit for Pac giving a fighter like Spence a run for his money. Spence is a great fighter and definitely the top Welterweight today IMO, and he's worthy of top 5 p4p.

If Pac won that would be a fantastic win, and definitely be his best win at 147 lbs, and one of his best wins in general, maybe his best given all the circumstances surrounding it. Being 42, 2 year lay off, etc.,

That being said, Spence isn't an ATG as of yet. No way can Manny be automatically top 3 of all time just because he beats Spence. Spence is great, but not great enough where it would absolutely catapult/cement Manny into GOAT status. Maybe if Pac KO'd spence in like round 1 just because that'd be insane, but even then.

Imagine if Floyd were to come out of retirement. Despite being 44 and retired for the past 6 years, if he went up and fought Spence, Bud, Porter, etc., and LOST, all of his haters would be having a field day and using that as their argument for Floyd being underrated or lesser than Manny. They'll excuse Pac, but not Floyd. It just makes no sense.

no one's lost yet boy.

[BodyBagz]

Yes, you certainly are that, lol

Prior to fighting Nelo, name a credible GGG win.

[Boxing-1013]

Prior to fighting Nelo, name a credible GGG win.

Jacobs, Murray, Lemieux probably his next top 3. Hell the only real soft touch for GGG in like his last 10 before Nelo was Wade. Ishida, who was 12 fights before Canelo, KOed your boy's boy Kirkland in one round. So before you hate on the Jacobs, Murrays, Lemieuxs etc of the world, be prepared to do that for any other fighter's list.

I think you'll find that nearly every fighter's resume in history is made up of 95% of the solid pro types. Most guys have maybe 2-4 fights vs 'great' fighters in their careers.

[BodyBagz]

Jacobs, Murray, Lemieux probably his next top 3.

Case closed

[Boxing-1013]

Case closed

So if you hate on those guys - why was Canelo even fighting Kirkland? If you call those 2 guys bums, and Ishida is considerably worse career wise than them, and he KOed Kirkland in 1 round.

So you must hammer Canelo for even fighting a superbum like Kirkland right? Lol Keep that same energy.

[BodyBagz]

So if you hate on those guys - why was Canelo even fighting Kirkland? If you call those 2 guys bums, and Ishida is considerably worse career wise than them, and he KOed Kirkland in 1 round.

So you must hammer Canelo for even fighting a superbum like Kirkland right? Lol Keep that same energy.

Kirkland >LeMeh

Rahman KO'd Lennox.

Sometimes a bum will get a flukish win (enter Ishida's name here)

[Boxing-1013]

Kirkland >LeMeh

Rahman KO'd Lennox.

Sometimes a bum will get a flukish win (enter Ishida's name here)

Ohhh so that's how you rationalize your idolizing of certain fighters, and hating on others. Go ahead fanboy, do you.

Kirkland over Lemieux, lol. Kirkland got KOed by a guy with 7 KOs in 29 fights lol. Keep rationalizing that lol