Comments Thread For: Ellerbe on Davis-Barrios Criticism: Are You Kidding Me? This Is A Dangerous Fight For Tank

[_Rexy_]

If it was such a dangerous fight for Tank, you wouldn't need to make a statement trying to convince fans that it's a dangerous fight for Tank.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

Mate. You was saying that there is no way fury will come at wilder and look what happened. So you don’t have a clue. Please call me a liar because I’ll go get those posts right now for you. You are most senile kid Round here. Fancy telling an active boxer that they don’t have a clue about boxing hahahaha

find the post...never said Fury wouldn’t come 4d against Wilder. But once again - Fury has the skill, boxing IQ, physical attributes to fight both ways...B-level Barrios does not...bringing up Fury in a conversation about B-level Barrios is ridiculous! By ur whack logic - every fighter has the skill, IQ, and physical attributes to fight both ways. Damn - why didn’t Mike Tyson just BOX more?? Mugabi, Kirkland, Barkley, Foreman. Sluggers/Brawlers are OBVIOUSLY what they are for a reason - they are not capable of boxing effectively!! Would b great if ALL fighters could flip the switch and do both! Would think a “former fighter”! could come up with better replies. b waiting for u and the “posts”...???? And while u frivolously look for those posts...back to the subject- what is ur “expert” prediction on this obvious mismatch?? A close decision? Close fight?? A Ko win for Barrios...Barrios using his height and reach advantages and “boxing” his way to a decision win?? Or perhaps an easy ko win over an obviously overmatched opponent for Davis(like everyone with half a boxing IQ is predicting)? Would love to hear a “former fighters “ breakdown” of this evenly matched, scintillating, could go either way, dangerous, RISKY fight for Davis....

[Walexhris]

Lopez, Loma, Haney...even GRJ...risky, dangerous fights ...50/50 ..60/40 intriguing fights that fans actually want to see. Really dont matter who is favorite, fight could go either way bc skill level is about even..unlike the mismatches Davis has been fighting. Gotta be willing to risk that 0 at some point.

Very Good, now which of these fights are available Atm. By the way, we can both see that not many names can be mentioned in the said category

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

Very Good, now which of these fights are available Atm. By the way, we can both see that not many names can be mentioned in the said category

GRJ and Davis both Pbc...GRJ calling Davis for years, wat possibly could b preventing that fight?? Protect that 0! Per Floyd a few years ago - “ Davis aint ready for Loma yet”..and now? Cant risk that 0! Davis in the post fight interview - “2 more fights this year and then Lopez or Loma” protect that 0...dont want that smoke! Gamboa, LSC, and now this B-level can...r these the best fights available to make for Davis? Or r these obvious cherry-picks of overmatched fighters with a HISPANIC last name! Would seem the latter...dont ya think? Pbc formula- started with Berto, continued with Broner - til Maidana exposed him and took his balls - to some extent Mayweather...and now Davis.

[Walexhris]

GRJ and Davis both Pbc...GRJ calling Davis for years, wat possibly could b preventing that fight?? Protect that 0! Per Floyd a few years ago - “ Davis aint ready for Loma yet”..and now? Cant risk that 0! Davis in the post fight interview - “2 more fights this year and then Lopez or Loma” protect that 0...dont want that smoke! Gamboa, LSC, and now this B-level can...r these the best fights available to make for Davis? Or r these obvious cherry-picks of overmatched fighters with a HISPANIC last name! Would seem the latter...dont ya think? Pbc formula- started with Berto, continued with Broner - til Maidana exposed him and took his balls - to some extent Mayweather...and now Davis.

GRJ is all talk, he calls every one out & fights no one......so let's exclude him....
Loma, when last did you hear from Loma, besides if Davis fights Loma now & beats him up, are you really going to stack that as a legit win Davis, you sure you won't say "Davis waited until Loma was washed up"
Teo got his hands full, so that fight ain't possible as of this time, besides teo doesn't seem too eager to fight Davis IMO

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

GRJ is all talk, he calls every one out & fights no one......so let's exclude him....
Loma, when last did you hear from Loma, besides if Davis fights Loma now & beats him up, are you really going to stack that as a legit win Davis, you sure you won't say "Davis waited until Loma was washed up"
Teo got his hands full, so that fight ain't possible as of this time, besides teo doesn't seem too eager to fight Davis IMO

So wat ur basically saying is b-level Barrios, past pillow-fisted LSC, and gimpy past it Gamboa are and were the best available for Davis to fight ? Lol! Teo been clowning Davis and his cherry-pick opponents...Teo just beat Loma who was top p4p...and now he “not eager” to fight Davis...who cant break into the top p4p list bc his resume sucks and is full of cherries!! Davis is skilled but he protected by Pbc...just look at his weak resume. So why do u think Floyd said that Davis was not ready for Loma years ago when Davis actually had more pro fights than Loma at the time? Even now - Floyd- one of the biggest trash talkers - still wont say they want a fight with Loma or Teo. Teo would b favorite over Davis...Loma/Davis would probably b 50/50...Just dont want to risk that 0!

[Walexhris]

So wat ur basically saying is b-level Barrios, past pillow-fisted LSC, and gimpy past it Gamboa are and were the best available for Davis to fight ? Lol! Teo been clowning Davis and his cherry-pick opponents...Teo just beat Loma who was top p4p...and now he “not eager” to fight Davis...who cant break into the top p4p list bc his resume sucks and is full of cherries!! Davis is skilled but he protected by Pbc...just look at his weak resume. So why do u think Floyd said that Davis was not ready for Loma years ago when Davis actually had more pro fights than Loma at the time? Even now - Floyd- one of the biggest trash talkers - still wont say they want a fight with Loma or Teo. Teo would b favorite over Davis...Loma/Davis would probably b 50/50...Just dont want to risk that 0!

No, that's what you are saying, I asked you to give names & you did, all I did was simply tell you why the names you mentioned wont work

i like how you throw teo's name about, to prove this point, the same teo is consistently being called out by Haney & it seems his braintrust don't want that smoke. Let's assume tank is a duck, I feel like teo is the last person he'd be ducking, their sparring match is out there for the world to see, if I were davis, there's no way I'd be ducking teo after that work
I don't think Floyd has been a trash talker with regards to Davis career( I may be wrong) & yes Floyd felt tank was not ready for that version of Loma and yes Davis had more professional fights at the time, it doesn't mean he was half as experienced as Loma. I'd like to see him fight Loma right now, but the real question is, when last did you hear from Loma (since his loss to teo, I haven't heard anything, apart from when he was sour about his loss)

Whenever teo fights tank, I feel like tank would win easy, I feel tank can do teo better than teo can.

All I'm saying is, as of right now, none of the guys we'd like to see Davis fight are available, so barrios is the best we can get right now

[tophat1]

The problem isn't so much with this opponent it's that there was huge hype behind these so called 4 kings at lightweight and all the great matchups were going to get between them. Tank has lots of unfinished business at 135. He's skipped past all that and gone for a paper champ at 140.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

No, that's what you are saying, I asked you to give names & you did, all I did was simply tell you why the names you mentioned wont work

i like how you throw teo's name about, to prove this point, the same teo is consistently being called out by Haney & it seems his braintrust don't want that smoke. Let's assume tank is a duck, I feel like teo is the last person he'd be ducking, their sparring match is out there for the world to see, if I were davis, there's no way I'd be ducking teo after that work
I don't think Floyd has been a trash talker with regards to Davis career( I may be wrong) & yes Floyd felt tank was not ready for that version of Loma and yes Davis had more professional fights at the time, it doesn't mean he was half as experienced as Loma. I'd like to see him fight Loma right now, but the real question is, when last did you hear from Loma (since his loss to teo, I haven't heard anything, apart from when he was sour about his loss)

Whenever teo fights tank, I feel like tank would win easy, I feel tank can do teo better than teo can.

All I'm saying is, as of right now, none of the guys we'd like to see Davis fight are available, so barrios is the best we can get right now

Teo ducking Haney..Lol!! U did see the Linares fight...with Haney unable to Ko the 5 time previously Ko’d old Linares...and literally man-hugging Linares crotch to avoid being Ko’d in the championship rds. Haney has below average power...Teo would walk through him. Like i said - Teo would be the favorite over both Haney and Davis. And to your point ...Teo(with 15 pro fights)was less experienced than Loma and took on the challenge...Davis/Floyd/Pbc dont have the balls to risk that 0. So Davis fought the best available his last 3 fights against overmatched opponents who happen to have Hispanic last names bc the best in the 3 divisions he competes in “were not available”???Or is he blatantly cherry-pickn? Would obviously b the latter...hence the criticism from experts, commentators, writers who wont put Davis in the p4p list until he grows a pair and risk that 0 against the best. Him and is team are content putting his mismatches on ppv and padding that record. Embarrassing that one-eyed Abner Mares was the opponent b4 LSC and had to drop out bc of injury. And btw - Loma has a fight scheduled against the one loss Asian fighter who gave Verdajo his 1st loss - by ko and gave Teo a tough fight in his only loss.

[Walexhris]

Teo ducking Haney..Lol!! U did see the Linares fight...with Haney unable to Ko the 5 time previously Ko’d old Linares...and literally man-hugging Linares crotch to avoid being Ko’d in the championship rds. Haney has below average power...Teo would walk through him. Like i said - Teo would be the favorite over both Haney and Davis. And to your point ...Teo(with 15 pro fights)was less experienced than Loma and took on the challenge...Davis/Floyd/Pbc dont have the balls to risk that 0. So Davis fought the best available his last 3 fights against overmatched opponents who happen to have Hispanic last names bc the best in the 3 divisions he competes in “were not available”???Or is he blatantly cherry-pickn? Would obviously b the latter...hence the criticism from experts, commentators, writers who wont put Davis in the p4p list until he grows a pair and risk that 0 against the best. Him and is team are content putting his mismatches on ppv and padding that record. Embarrassing that one-eyed Abner Mares was the opponent b4 LSC and had to drop out bc of injury. And btw - Loma has a fight scheduled against the one loss Asian fighter who gave Verdajo his 1st loss - by ko and gave Teo a tough fight in his only loss.

Let's not go out of context, we were talking about the barrios fight, I didn't say nothing about Davis last 3 fights, and if Davis felt he wasn't ready for Loma I'm okay with it, and this is my reason, I don't want excuses, of the canelo kind......canelo grew a pair & fought floyd and now, all we hear from canelo fans are excuses, they say canelo was still green, but if you watched the all access segment back then, canelo thought he was ready.

With regards to the Haney fight, he couldn't secure the stoppage, yes, but that only means he ain't heavy handed, if any heavy handed fighter fought Linares and landed the shots Haney landed through to the tenth, the fight would have been over before the tenth & as a result Linares would never have the opportunity to hurt Haney

What I'm saying is this, the only reason we were able to see Linares hurt Haney was because Haney is light handed, if Haney was heavy handed and landed those same shots, the fight would have been over by the fifth.

Let me put it like this if Haney closed the show by the sixth, we would be talking about what a spectacular Haney is and how Linares couldn't touch him at all.

Let me rephrase, if Haney was able to stop Linares early, and I suggested that, had it gone to the tenth Linares would actually hurt Haney, won't you look at me funny( going by the display Haney put b4 the stoppage?)

speaking of teo, we heard he got knocked out 2ce at the benavidez gym, by an unranked fighter( the same fighter, on diff occasions), so am I to judge teo based off that.