Spence is not as good as some think

[danceswithfire]

so if pac wins then it's no big deal?....lol come on people

[JakeTheBoxer]

If Spence can`t beat Pacquiao clearly, he should move up to 154. 154 guys suck, he will take all the belts there.

[asgarth]

His attributes still should be too much for 42 year old Pacquiao.
pacquiao already showed signs of old man stamina vs Thurman. And that was 2 years ago. He wont be able to keep up with spence pace unfortunately.

[kerrminator]

Thats a good way of putting it, it really is a transitional period in time, nobody has stood up with ATG potential its just a bunch of guys trying to establish who is the best of the bunch, I don't think the bunch is as good as the last generation and only Floyd was better than Manny, both ATGs, your other point about Winky Wright is not far of the mark either.

Good fight and Manny is definitely in with a decent chance.

Agreed but the annoying thing is that there potentially could be an ATG @ 147lbs if they would get the finger out and actually fight each other lol

[Nash out]

I actually think Spence is better than some think. He and Crawford have to fight in 2022. They both have enough money now, go have some balls and prove you are the best in the division. As much as I rate Crawford, I actually think he wants to swerve the Spence fight.

[RuleOfTheSpear]

Spence is not Floyd. Floyd has been boxing since he was a little child. Spence didn't start boxing until 15, which is fairly late, when he had already gone through puberty.

Even today, Spence's movement is quite stiff and unnatural, he lacks fluidity compared to Floyd or Crawford who grew up boxing.

Spence also doesn't have Floyd's experience.

Now, Spence is HUGE for 147 and has good skills, that combined with his strength and talent has been too much for most guys.

But Pac will be the fastest, and most experienced opponent he has ever faced by far.

This is an intriguing matchup.

I disagree. He's better than Floyd.
Spence is completely different beast.
Spence will win against Pac if the strategy is right.

Obviously Spence is not as mobile as Floyd. The only close similarity is the jab, but it seems Pac knows how to negate a jab, even against Floyd.

The only way for errol to win is to go to the body in the early rounds and deplete pac's stamina. this will give errol the opportunity to breakdown pac in the second half; pac will become flatfooted in the second half as seen in the thurman fight.

thurman did great body work in round 2, 3, and 5. which took out manny's footwork in the second half of the fight. errol is not gunna win this if he fights in the outside. he is not as mobile as floyd. and he fights in the front foot.

if errol focuses on the body in the first half, he will win by stoppage.
if errol fights in the outside in the first half, he will lose by decision.

[Sid-Knee]

You damn right he isn't. Still hasn't beaten a good fresh world level fighter.

He lost to Porter who is the only fresh guy his weight and proven. I had it 7-5 for Porter, but by only a point due to the KD. Brook was badly drained (Especially the second half of the fight) after going up to Middle. He was already struggling at Welter, so putting on extra muscle and coming down again was just a bad idea. But it's worse when you factor in the stoppage loss to Golovkin and his eye injury. Mikey was too small at the weight. It was a decent win, but no more than that. Garcia isn't world level any more. He hasn't had a win at world level since Khan. A win over him can't keep being good, it doesn't work like that. Again, it was a decent fringe level win, but no more than that.

His resume is smoke and mirrors, just like Canelo's. Awful in fact.

[Get em up]

Comparing Spence and Floyd is Apples and Oranges. Floyd is a generational talent and the definition of a true boxer. Hit and not be hit. Spence is a boxer/fighter with his own set of strengths and weaknesses. Spence will never be Floyd but Floyd cant be Spence either. Attributes play a big role in boxing and utilising your natural attributes are key to success.

[Biolink]

Manny isn't the same either. He takes a lot of breaks. His 2nd half let Thurman make the fight competitive again. Spence gets better over the 2nd half. Personally thinks Spence wins a clear, but competitive win behind his jab.

[Eff Pandas]

I agree. I remember being up on Spence big 4 or so years ago. But things never quite hit the stride I thought they were gonna hit. I think Errol has had his best day already, I think his accident insured that, & idk that I see him getting THAT much better really since that time 4 or so years ago when he was The Guy Waiting To Takeover. He's gotten his chance & beaten better guys, but I thought he coulda did that years before he ended up doing it & he didn't usually do is as impressively as I expected a future star to do it. Idk that this will matter vs Manny, but I suspect Manny has a better chance than most do. And as to the future I think its Boots' world & everyone else is just keeping the belts & #1 spot warm for him.