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  • billeau2
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    #91
    Originally posted by kafkod

    I just want to check something with you before I go any further into your post ... you do know that Hearn was trying to arrange a fight between Joshua and Fury for the undisputed HW title, and that Arum would have co-promoted the fight with Eddie?
    When two promoters are involved, there are two sets of interests. Now... I am going to go out on a limb here: I would imagine that even when a promoter is promoting two of his own fighters, both fighters have separate lawyers representing them at the signing.

    If copromoting a fight was a set of communal interests a trust could be arrianged, with trustees and escrow existing wholly for the purpose of the fight as an entity. The fight would become the client. That is kind of what alphabet soup tries to do isnt it? The WBA...whatever, sets up a de facto fictional entity; that being a fight. The fight is based on the premise that no matter the fighters involved, there is a champion and a mandatory, chosen in accordance to the rules of the event at hand.

    If you are thinking "well we don't really need promoters what do they do" pass GO and collect 200 dollars. You would be absolutely right. What do you think the Paul Brothers do? They gain a fan following, get the fans to request a contest, and the contest becomes the entity. Any promotion is for the event, and most of the promotion is just social media... Look how much they pulled in, you don't think Arum, or any other promoter would not want a piece of that action? But what do you think the Paul brothers would tell them if they made a pitch? it would be like what the Eskimo tells the fridge salesman... the compulsive clean freak tells the maid service...

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    • KillaMane26
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      #92
      Originally posted by No look hook

      Great point actually. We can't forget how crafty Bob is
      after all he's been in this game for centuries lol I prefer uncle Bob to Hearn though. Although he would irk me for fights not happening in the past. Gotta give it to him he's still a major player in this game. Props Bob
      Arum playing chess not checkers..... He knew AJ vs Fury wasn't happening.... Why it took Soo long to make then they jumped on the Wilder fight quick asf a d didn't even mention or entertain giving him step aside money or letting Hearn give step aside money....

      He miked the interest of the unification fight to promote the Wilder fight... Now watch Fury take a tune up after.


      Arum.been doing this for years....

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        #93
        Originally posted by KillaMane26

        Arum playing chess not checkers..... He knew AJ vs Fury wasn't happening.... Why it took Soo long to make then they jumped on the Wilder fight quick asf a d didn't even mention or entertain giving him step aside money or letting Hearn give step aside money....

        He miked the interest of the unification fight to promote the Wilder fight... Now watch Fury take a tune up after.


        Arum.been doing this for years....
        Seriously he played Hearn like a fiddle with Hearn looking like the sole promoter posturing lol Arum outlasted King fyi!! Arum is an old man in this game n still has with a about him. I know exactly what he's about!! Lol

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #94
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          .....







          this comment, tells the WHOLE story...

          " One minute he is telling everybody I'm not involved at all in the negotiations - and now it is my fault. "

          I like Fast Eddie... but he is totally full-of-shlt

          he is not quite Arum 2.0... but fast working his way up lol






          .....








          ok, I will walk back that post... on this occasion, I was probably wrong

          be careful...

          1) only a total shlthead either will not, or cannot, admit they may have been wrong... especially after hearing new information
          2) if something quacks, I have the right to assume it is a duck... and Joshua has quacked... so I am more than happy to discuss that if anyone wants to go a few rounds

          I forgot the first rule of boxing, which is extremely surprising for me

          FACT: Bob Arum would lie to his own mother before stabbing her in the back lol

          Hearn is not on that level

          so... Arum publicly confirmed the fight was on... but Fury/Wilder was announced 48 hours later... INCLUDING THE VENUE AND DATE

          apologies to all the crybaby Joshua fans








          ...

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            #95
            Originally posted by KillaMane26

            Arum playing chess not checkers..... He knew AJ vs Fury wasn't happening.... Why it took Soo long to make then they jumped on the Wilder fight quick asf a d didn't even mention or entertain giving him step aside money or letting Hearn give step aside money....

            He miked the interest of the unification fight to promote the Wilder fight... Now watch Fury take a tune up after.


            Arum.been doing this for years....






            good post bro

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            • GucciGod
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              #96
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

              Twice as many fans? Where were they when he was getting 2k attendance against Wallin?

              To keep his name in the press.

              Who said breach contracts? He was supposed to be honest you clown, they said Wilder wouldn't be a problem while planning a Wilder fight.

              Wilder already said he turned down much better offers for Joshua than he did for Fury, remember too that Wilder hadn't sold 1 PPV and was making 2 mil a fight when he was making ridiculous demands too.. So you haven't got a leg to stand on. Wilder ducked.
              His name is always in the press. Jake Paul and his brother puts him in the press. He’s in the press constantly. Number one bookseller. Had his own reality show. Grow up. How many PPV have Joshua ever sold in his life? In the US?

              Fury AJ AND HEARN are all getting the SAME publicity though. Just joshuas own backers don’t have anything interesting to write about aj so sky sports use fury.

              if he’s mad popular in WWE, sells PPV in America friends with Shaq and the rest of Hollywood, I doubt he needs Joshua to help promote himself. And how many Americans did aj have in MSG to support him? The 4 hangers on he paid to walk with him? Nah, Hearn needed his usual clueless casuals to fly out.

              so you clearly haven’t proven me wrong with any facts or links.

              mind you, you are the guy who told an ex prizefighter they know nothing! Hahahahaha Robbie. Go get some friends pal.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

                Twice as many fans? Where were they when he was getting 2k attendance against Wallin?

                To keep his name in the press.

                Who said breach contracts? He was supposed to be honest you clown, they said Wilder wouldn't be a problem while planning a Wilder fight.

                Wilder already said he turned down much better offers for Joshua than he did for Fury, remember too that Wilder hadn't sold 1 PPV and was making 2 mil a fight when he was making ridiculous demands too.. So you haven't got a leg to stand on. Wilder ducked.
                But Hearn still didn’t do everything in his power did he?

                why was joseph Parker worth a percentage but wilder wasn’t.

                if he knew all wilder wanted was 50-50 he would of done it to ensure they get that belt and be undisputed.

                are you saying Charles Martin was worth that 5-6 million he got? So if he was worth that as a fresh champ, wilder was worth 50-50, considering aj doesn’t have one single fan willing to pay to see him in the USA Doss he? So wilder was bringing that audience, but Eddie decided to do whatever it took to give you AJ Parker, because he knows you fans are gormless. He openly mocks you all when he says

                ”I can make Joshua Vs Joe bloggs and I can fill Wembley!”

                seen you all coming.

                ive done you like a Kippa again. Stay telling retired fighters about boxing little dope you are.

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by GucciGod

                  His name is always in the press. Jake Paul and his brother puts him in the press. He’s in the press constantly. Number one bookseller. Had his own reality show. Grow up. How many PPV have Joshua ever sold in his life? In the US?

                  Fury AJ AND HEARN are all getting the SAME publicity though. Just joshuas own backers don’t have anything interesting to write about aj so sky sports use fury.

                  if he’s mad popular in WWE, sells PPV in America friends with Shaq and the rest of Hollywood, I doubt he needs Joshua to help promote himself. And how many Americans did aj have in MSG to support him? The 4 hangers on he paid to walk with him? Nah, Hearn needed his usual clueless casuals to fly out.

                  so you clearly haven’t proven me wrong with any facts or links.

                  mind you, you are the guy who told an ex prizefighter they know nothing! Hahahahaha Robbie. Go get some friends pal.
                  Mad popular but sells 2k tickets? Friends with Shaq because he met him and took a picture with him? What are you 10?

                  What prizefighter? Rockin? Everyone knows he knows **** all, he has a record like the bums they feed Tommy.

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                  • GucciGod
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

                    Mad popular but sells 2k tickets? Friends with Shaq because he met him and took a picture with him? What are you 10?

                    What prizefighter? Rockin? Everyone knows he knows **** all, he has a record like the bums they feed Tommy.
                    STOP DEFLECTING ROBBIE
                    It was more than 2K attendance actually. Tell that to the money he got paid for that fight lmao! Still more bums on seats than Joshua can get in America isn’t it? So it’s 0 PPV AJ “THE BIGGEST STAR IN BOXING” has done isn’t it?

                    Lol, you say “to get publicity” but the only guy that milked this publicity was Eddie wasn’t it? He kept telling the world its done well before anything was done. He never did that with wilder, Parker or any body else for that matter.

                    So let’s suppose Had Andy Ruiz tried his best to not give AJ and Eddie the rematch in Saudi, and pressed ahead signed to fight wilder, announced to the world wilder is next, and then Joshua wins in court and its ruled he gets his rematch, are you telling me Eddie would of even entertained a step aside offer? Would Joshua of been willing to just take a pay off?

                    You do understand a step aside deal don’t you? If yes, you’ll know that wilder would of gotten £20M to wait a year or so but still get his rematch.

                    So all pettiness aside now, be straight, don’t be a fanboy and don’t just say what you’re opinion is Robbie. Talk on FACTS and use EVIDENCE to substantiate these claims you just blurt out.

                    You know for a fact that Joshua doesn’t need fury for publicity and fury doesn’t need Joshua for publicity.

                    And the only guy who ACTUALLY WENT PUBLIC with negotiations about this fight was who? .......... EDDIE HEARN.

                    Start telling the truth. To yourself even if not to others!


                    Hahaha. Bums? What does that say about AJ then? Considering he’s struggled with guys those bums have Knocked out. Lmao. You don’t think before passionately ranting do you Robbie.

                    you won’t get past this list of questions without proving yourself to be a clueless little troll that has no idea about boxing. Enjoy making yourself look silly won’t you. Prove me wrong Robbie!

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                    • GucciGod
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by robbie barrett

                      mad popular but sells 2k tickets? Friends with shaq because he met him and took a picture with him? What are you 10?

                      What prizefighter? Rockin? Everyone knows he knows **** all, he has a record like the bums they feed tommy.
                      eddie and joshua wouldnt even pay wilder 20 million to fight but expect fury to pay wilder 20 million to postpone their fight.

                      Eddie says that if team fury asked then maybe joshua would of signed a deal saying if he beats fury he will fight wilder next.

                      But when wilder told hearn categorically ”i’ll fight dillian whyte as long as me vs joshua next is in that signed agreement”

                      eddie declined the offer!!

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