I'm a Fury fan but

[andocom]

I think Fury and AJ would both fight each other but I don't think Arum and Warren want that fight.

It's weird to me because I think Fury would win pretty easily but there is maybe a 20% risk factor and I think those guys see that as too big a risk.

Boxing politics are at the fore of this and there's a lot of people in the sport who are DESPERATE to hinder Eddie Hearn in any way.

I think Fury is on his last fight with Arum, he definatley shouldn't re sign, if him, AJ and Hearn sit down over a coffee they will finalise a deal in 15 minutes that works for everyone imho.

Sounds like most of Fury's guidance is done by MTK, for the two Joshua fights Hearn would be the lead promoter and those fights would probably earn way more than anything else he could do in his career, especially if he wins the first.

Which raises the question of why wouldn't Arum want to make the Joshua fight, the second Wilder fight didn't make much if any money apparently, so the third could be a bloodbath financially and if his deal with Arum is up Fury would be free to cut him out for the big money fights. I guess access to ESPN in the US is the main thing Arum brings but the Saudis are paying anyway.

Who knows, but screwing up, so the last fight on Fury's contract is a loss maker with two massive paydays ready to go is unfortunate timing it would seem.

[KingGilgamesh]

he won't face AJ.

I think he wins and all but just like he ducked David Price he will duck AJ.

Its like Khan avoiding Brook all these years. He'd rather get killed than to lose to a fellow Brit.

He despises AJ and is jealous of him imo and couldn't handle the thought of losing to him.

This is all very true but it doesn't really negate the fact that he couldnt make the arbitrator rule in his favour.

[KingGilgamesh]

Sounds like most of Fury's guidance is done by MTK, for the two Joshua fights Hearn would be the lead promoter and those fights would probably earn way more than anything else he could do in his career, especially if he wins the first.

Which raises the question of why wouldn't Arum want to make the Joshua fight, the second Wilder fight didn't make much if any money apparently, so the third could be a bloodbath financially and if his deal with Arum is up Fury would be free to cut him out for the big money fights. I guess access to ESPN in the US is the main thing Arum brings but the Saudis are paying anyway.

Who knows, but screwing up, so the last fight on Fury's contract is a loss maker with two massive paydays ready to go is unfortunate timing it would seem.

The Joshua-Fury fight isn't a moneyspinner as much people think it will be. In fact, I kinda feel it wouldn't do all that much better than Wilder-Fury 3. For some reason, I just don't think Joshua or Fury have really captured the imagination of the boxing community outside of the UK. Unless they charged like £50 for it (which wouldn't surprise me if they do) then I don't think it really does more than $150m.

I also don't know how much Arum actually trusts the Saudi's delivering on their promises. Unless the escrow talk was simply talk, it makes it already seem apparent Arum didn't believe the money was on the table.

[DaNeutral.]

Maybe Fury never got over the kicking Joshua gave him in sparring in 2012

[andocom]

The Joshua-Fury fight isn't a moneyspinner as much people think it will be. In fact, I kinda feel it wouldn't do all that much better than Wilder-Fury 3. For some reason, I just don't think Joshua or Fury have really captured the imagination of the boxing community outside of the UK. Unless they charged like £50 for it (which wouldn't surprise me if they do) then I don't think it really does more than $150m.

I also don't know how much Arum actually trusts the Saudi's delivering on their promises. Unless the escrow talk was simply talk, it makes it already seem apparent Arum didn't believe the money was on the table.

Using escrow doesn't show anything, you think they hand them a $60 million cheque after the fights finished or something. Escrow is usual for big deals in business. Plus the Saudi money is pretty much know isn't it, it was massive without relying on PPV as I heard it.