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  • SplitSecond
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    #31
    Originally posted by KTFOKING

    Tell me how the Pacquiao fight is taking place in the states for Spence? Tell me how the Porter fight took place for Spence? Tell me how the DSG fight took place for Spence?

    So it's ONLY Crawford that can't get these match ups while other fighters can? How is Canelo fighting in these big fights right now in the states? How is Wilder/Fury III taking place in Vegas? Again, ONLY Crawford that you will lose money on or can't make any sort of big fight?

    And I'd love to see him fight Ennis as that is someone TR should be trying to sign right now. But guess what? There is close to a zero percent chance Crawford fights him.
    So tell me, has Spence gotten Pacquiao his 40 mil? The rest is the PBC job that’s been discussed countless times.

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      #32
      Originally posted by KTFOKING

      Tell me how the Pacquiao fight is taking place in the states for Spence? Tell me how the Porter fight took place for Spence? Tell me how the DSG fight took place for Spence?

      So it's ONLY Crawford that can't get these match ups while other fighters can? How is Canelo fighting in these big fights right now in the states? How is Wilder/Fury III taking place in Vegas? Again, ONLY Crawford that you will lose money on or can't make any sort of big fight?

      And I'd love to see him fight Ennis as that is someone TR should be trying to sign right now. But guess what? There is close to a zero percent chance Crawford fights him.
      I ended up skimming a bit when you talked about DSG (clearly ducked Crawford already), apologies. Canelo hasn’t fought plant yet has he? It’s a big opportunity for PBC to show something. Will the fight actually happen? Will it require a 3 fight deal and a gauntlet for Canelo to run? It’s interesting for sure.

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        #33
        Originally posted by SplitSecond

        So tell me, has Spence gotten Pacquiao his 40 mil? The rest is the PBC job that’s been discussed countless times.
        You tell me what PBC has gotten him?

        Once again, how is it possible that Spence vs Porter was made, yet Crawford vs Porter could not be made? Why are these big fights being able to be made, even some during the pandemic but the money was an issue for only Crawford? IF TR is truly losing so much money on his fights, is it on him to concede some of his purse to make certain fights happen? Or does he not have to do anything and his promoter can continue to drag him in the media and he just sits there and accepts it?

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          #34
          Anybody that has a belt or a secondary title at 147. Collect as many chips to entice Spence to fight for all the gold.

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            #35
            Porter, Ortiz Jr and Taylor should be his next 3 fights in that order.

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              #36
              Originally posted by KTFOKING

              You tell me what PBC has gotten him?

              Once again, how is it possible that Spence vs Porter was made, yet Crawford vs Porter could not be made? Why are these big fights being able to be made, even some during the pandemic but the money was an issue for only Crawford? IF TR is truly losing so much money on his fights, is it on him to concede some of his purse to make certain fights happen? Or does he not have to do anything and his promoter can continue to drag him in the media and he just sits there and accepts it?
              You follow this junk like a religion, so you tell me. Why did Charlo turn down the mils offered by Canelo and Andrade? Davis from Farmer? etc. I think they both made a counter-offer, that would actually bring LESS money to both guys too right? Correct me if I’m wrong of course. As far as I know, NO PBC welterweight has made Crawford a single offer. Crawford at this point has made an offer or at least approached (in the case of Spence, where Arum was promised 2020 or somethin) them all except Porter.

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                #37
                RETIRING.................... He’s been fighting like he’s in his last 3 years of boxing anyways. Might as well retire. He isn’t a spring chicken anymore and he’s so damn inactive at his job. He doesn’t seem to think he has anything to prove anyways. Hasn’t for 5 years.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond

                  You follow this junk like a religion, so you tell me. Why did Charlo turn down the mils offered by Canelo and Andrade? Davis from Farmer? etc. I think they both made a counter-offer, that would actually bring LESS money to both guys too right? Correct me if I’m wrong of course. As far as I know, NO PBC welterweight has made Crawford a single offer. Crawford at this point has made an offer or at least approached (in the case of Spence, where Arum was promised 2020 or somethin) them all except Porter.
                  Are we talking Crawford or Charlo here? Why are you bringing those names up here? How is that relevant to the discussion. How is that relevant to why the Pacquiao or Porter fights couldn't or can't be made?

                  Why would Porter make an offer to Crawford? How does that make any sense? Crawford is the A-side here with the belt, not Porter. Would Porter be making an offer to put the fight on FOX? Lol, how ****** does that sound? Only guy getting Crawford off of ESPN would be Spence, and even that isn't likely. They would do a dual-PPV in all likelihood. But Porter? No he did exactly what a B-side is supposed to do. Go to the A-side's promoter and let them know they are interested in the fight.....Yet they got no response in return and Arum is coming out asking "who's going to pay for that" L-O-L.

                  Let me let you into a secret of what is going on. Only time Arum is fine with putting Crawford in one of these big fights is if he gets a huge site fee from the Middle East which would mitigate the risk (Pacquiao) or if the other promoter is responsible for the purse of their guy (Spence). Don't try to overthink it here or wonder how only one guy keeps getting left out of a big fight and how only money is an issue for when one guy's potential fights get brought up.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by KTFOKING

                    Are we talking Crawford or Charlo here? Why are you bringing those names up here? How is that relevant to the discussion. How is that relevant to why the Pacquiao or Porter fights couldn't or can't be made?

                    Why would Porter make an offer to Crawford? How does that make any sense? Crawford is the A-side here with the belt, not Porter. Would Porter be making an offer to put the fight on FOX? Lol, how ****** does that sound? Only guy getting Crawford off of ESPN would be Spence, and even that isn't likely. They would do a dual-PPV in all likelihood. But Porter? No he did exactly what a B-side is supposed to do. Go to the A-side's promoter and let them know they are interested in the fight.....Yet they got no response in return and Arum is coming out asking "who's going to pay for that" L-O-L.

                    Let me let you into a secret of what is going on. Only time Arum is fine with putting Crawford in one of these big fights is if he gets a huge site fee from the Middle East which would mitigate the risk (Pacquiao) or if the other promoter is responsible for the purse of their guy (Spence). Don't try to overthink it here or wonder how only one guy keeps getting left out of a big fight and how only money is an issue for when one guy's potential fights get brought up.
                    Lol, i’m just trying to ascertain if they get as much as they ask for over at PBC. Spence is seen as a bigger attraction, has more belts, Pacquiao sees as an easier fight etc it’s possible he settled for less no? He sure hasn’t made a public announcement requiring 40mil from Spence like he did with Crawford. You’re assuming. He started training awhile ago, he has to fight someone, he’s probably desperate being out as long as he’s been.

                    Also Porter was champ while Crawford was around, you know that right? Thurman too, Pacquiao... Crawford has made offers to Thurman, DSG, approached Haymon to make Spence, give us your excuses. You’re hanging on the porter fight. He’s just a hitman with nothing to lose and I’ve already amicably agreed that it’s entirely probable he was side-stepped, especially since he didn’t activate the mandatory. Or, they thought he wasn’t even worth broaching considering his comments on what he considered ‘insulting’.

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                    • KTFOKING
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      Lol, i’m just trying to ascertain if they get as much as they ask for over at PBC. Spence is seen as a bigger attraction, has more belts, Pacquiao sees as an easier fight etc it’s possible he settled for less no? He sure hasn’t made a public announcement requiring 40mil from Spence like he did with Crawford. You’re assuming. He started training awhile ago, he has to fight someone, he’s probably desperate being out as long as he’s been.

                      Also Porter was champ while Crawford was around, you know that right? Thurman too, Pacquiao... Crawford has made offers to Thurman, DSG, approached Haymon to make Spence, give us your excuses. You’re hanging on the porter fight. He’s just a hitman with nothing to lose and I’ve already amicably agreed that it’s entirely probable he was side-stepped, especially since he didn’t activate the mandatory. Or, they thought he wasn’t even worth broaching considering his comments on what he considered ‘insulting’.
                      Bringing up Charlo or Davis makes no sense in this thread.

                      Okay, so Pacquiao settled for less and that's why the Spence fight was made in Vegas and not the Crawford fight? Got it, good to know that Pacquiao settled for less here.

                      Crawford approached Haymon to make the Spence fight? When exactly did he approach him? Only thing Bob said is that they (Haymon) talked and said they would try to make it in 2020. Nowhere did they ever even get in serious negotiations or even any sort of negotiations minus that conversation.

                      Thurman being champ when Crawford was champ means what exactly?

                      Since you want to bring who approached who, BoMac, the manager of Crawford went on a podcast last year saying the likes of Thurman and Porter are interested in the fight but there just isn't enough money....Fast forward a few months after that interview, Porter meets with TR and is told.............there is not enough money for the fight and Crawford can't sell PPVs! Then when called out on that, Trampler then tries to say, well those two are friendly and not interested in fighting! Mind you, the day before Kenny Porter does an interview saying we can't wait any longer for Crawford and it is clear they don't want the fight.

                      Anyways, an easy fight to make with Taylor with both fighters being in TR? Well, only way it gets made is if it is taken to the UK. Why? Because Crawford can't sell here! How much longer are we going to continue to hear this from Bob and TR? Taylor, a guy who is not even a big name in the UK and one that couldn't even get one of the top broadcasters to air his UNDISPUTED fight is the guy that Crawford has to travel to get the fight? Huh? Now even THAT fight can't be made in the states? Alrighty then............

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