Cotto,"Manny Pacquiao Is Not A Better Boxer Than Miguel Cotto"

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  • Jiddu Dali
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    #21
    Originally posted by Merseyside
    I hate it when people talk in third person.

    Roy Jones & Mayweather have degree's in 3rd person talking

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    • Jiddu Dali
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      #22
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      cotto may or may not be the better boxer, but for sure pac has got the better trainer / better corner / and probably the better gameplan
      but he hasnt fought better competition

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      • whirlwind
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        #23
        Originally posted by King Flawless
        Are you making excuses for Pacman. If you are NOT able to finish a man you knocked 5 times, it says a lot. What makes it worse, JMM was able to recover and box the living day lights of Pacman
        You want facts?
        Google it dude!
        Pac won the first fight if not for the judge admitted scoring error.
        Pac won the second fight because of the first knock down. They
        should include the 2nd knock down as well when JMM holding for his
        dear life in the rope and then after that he wants to sit on Pac stool.
        Last edited by whirlwind; 09-01-2009, 11:32 AM.

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        • Left2body
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          #24
          I think its pretty clear that Cotto is the more skilled boxer. Pac is very clearly the more talented of the two.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Merseyside
            I hate it when people talk in third person.
            ABOSWORTH is not a fan of people talking in third person either. ABOSWORTH thinks it's obnoxious.

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            • blind4
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              #26
              Cotto can out box Manny, but i hope he goes for the KO

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                #27
                Originally posted by Left2body
                I think its pretty clear that Cotto is the more skilled boxer. Pac is very clearly the more talented of the two.
                wait....huh?..one is more skilled and one is more talented?

                how did you mathematically come up with that theory?

                talent = skill & skill = talent

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by whirlwind
                  You want facts?
                  Google it dude!
                  Pac won the first fight if not for the judge admitted scoring error.
                  Pac won the second fight because of the first knock down. They
                  should include the 2nd knock down as well when JMM holding for his
                  dear life in the rope and then after that he wants to sit on Pac stool.
                  Mayweather will finish where Pac left off

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                  • King Flawless
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by whirlwind
                    You want facts?
                    Google it dude!
                    Pac won the first fight if not for the judge admitted scoring error.
                    Pac won the second fight because of the first knock down. They
                    should include the 2nd knock down as well when JMM holding for his
                    dear life in the rope and then after that he wants to sit on Pac stool.
                    * Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao:

                    - Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
                    - Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
                    - Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
                    - Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
                    - Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
                    - Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
                    - Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
                    - Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
                    - Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
                    - Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
                    - Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
                    - Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
                    - Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
                    - DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
                    - Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
                    - Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
                    - Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
                    - Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
                    - Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
                    - Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
                    - Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
                    - William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
                    - Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
                    - Bert Sugar:Marquez
                    - Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
                    - Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
                    - Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
                    - Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez

                    * Pacquiao wins the vacant Ring Magazine jr. lightweight world title. Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquiao but did not believe he won the fight.

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                    • Left2body
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                      wait....huh?..one is more skilled and one is more talented?

                      how did you mathematically come up with that theory?

                      talent = skill & skill = talent
                      Talent is physical. Someone can be very talented but not very skilled. They can even get by on their talent for a while.

                      A skilled fighter has stuff you learn in the gym.

                      Barrera vs Hamed..........Skill beat talent

                      Pac vs Marquez 1.........talent beat skill

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