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  • #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Everyone calls out the cash cow. Crawford called out manny. No fight.
    Ok well why is it that the phone gets picked up when it's a bum like Berto but a prime young lion whose mandatory like Thurman oops I am on vacation. You ran out of excuses.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

      No, the Nelo Floyd beat weren't that good. If he was good he'd have been favourite against floyd. He was green and drained. Pac was 41, fighting thurman who was in boxing prime in thurman backyard.
      Pac s win over thurman is historical and better than.anything in floydsvresume
      Sure dude. Anything but admit you were wrong.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by djtmal View Post

        Ok well why is it that the phone gets picked up when it's a bum like Berto but a prime young lion whose mandatory like Thurman oops I am on vacation. You ran out of excuses.
        let it go dude. If manny could beat him, Floyd would beat him. Why. Because Floyd is better than both of them.

        what floyd would never do is lose to a Horn level opponent. If the Thurman win elevated manny so much the Horn loss had to lower him significantly. Or does that not factor in?

        manny beating Thurman is a solid win. Great for Manny. Has no impact on The Floyd/ manny discussion.

        move on dude. You’re stuck in the past.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          Sure dude. Anything but admit you were wrong.
          Thurman doesn't have to be the greatest fighter. Context is everything. Pac was 41 and giving away all the advantages. Age, size, home advantage, more wear and tear, history was against pac also as no ww in history had did just what pac did at 41, so pac was up against it. Odds were stacked against pac wasn't looking good.
          Nel o only had size going for him and floyd tried taking only thing Nell had going for him away.
          That's not cool in your last legacy fight

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          • #65
            Originally posted by djtmal View Post

            See thats where you are missing it fam. Floyd is over. He is fighting Jap kickboxers and Youtubers, taking away from his legacy. Definitely solidifying his reputation as a guy who just wanted easy fights.

            While Manny on the other hand......
            Man you and Hugh Grant, you guys are wrecking Big Dunn anew.. Take it easy with him. His love for Floyd is fatal he might commit suicide hehe..

            He can't get that Floyd took the easy road now and he still thinks Canelo wasn't green when Floyd fought him.. Big Dunn's favorite line. Just stop it.. let it go.. move on. He doesn't even know it's Floyd who moved on in pro boxing.

            Delusion thy name is Big Dunn

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            • #66
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
              It will always be something. When he beat Thurman they said Thurman was coming off an injury and long layoff, even though he beat Lopez several months prior. They immediately tried to discredit Pac's win.

              If Manny should pull off a miracle and beat Spence, the excuses will be plenty, mostly the ones you cited. Spence was still damaged from car crash, pre-car crash he beats Manny. Manny was on steroids, or some A-side meth that Uncle Crackhead accused him of years ago. What's funny is that not too long ago, they were all mocking Manny for "ducking" Crawford, who they all call a bum. Now, they say Manny is broke and desperate for a payday which is why he chose Spence, as if he couldn't make more money fighting an easier opponent. They also say he is only fighting Spence because he never got over his loss to Floyd.

              This is the PBC fanboy mindset.
              That's the fun part about the journey of Pacquiao. Ever since he started his career in the USA. Naysayers come in and diss his accomplishment.. It never ends.. but as Manny piled up the wins.. Those naysayers became fans.. That's how legends are born.. At this point there are a handful left. When Pac wins against Spence. That will the exclamation point to end all arguments. Pac will be in a whole different league of his own. Amazing stuff. Coming soon.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                Why would that impact anything? Beating Thurman isn’t better than beating Canelo or Manny, so again let it go.
                Beating a prime Thurman is a better win at age 42, than beating a green 21 year old Canelo or an injured Pacquiao.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  let it go dude. If manny could beat him, Floyd would beat him. Why. Because Floyd is better than both of them.

                  what floyd would never do is lose to a Horn level opponent. If the Thurman win elevated manny so much the Horn loss had to lower him significantly. Or does that not factor in?

                  manny beating Thurman is a solid win. Great for Manny. Has no impact on The Floyd/ manny discussion.

                  move on dude. You’re stuck in the past.
                  See this is the problem. It's not for certain Floyd would beat these guys he avoided just because you think he's better. You don't want to admit that ducking Thurman bit Floyd in the @ss legacy wise because Manny beat him when he was without question the man to beat at 147.
                  Floyd's ww run ******. The paper champs he beat in their prime Ortiz, Guerrero, Marco's Madonna 2X is nothing to write home about. Prime Thurman beating prime Garcia and prime Porter for 2 of the belts made him the man to beat in the ring. A way past prime 40 plus Manny beat that guy, and you can't excuse that away with your Floyd would have beat him anyways fanboy rhetoric.
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                  • #69
                    If he pulls off a W, minus any nonsense (although the sport owes him ONE gift. Pac was given at least ONE gift vs JMM), HUGE credit. No way of denying it.

                    Odds are a legit prime southpaw will be the exact kind of opponent Pac will lose to.

                    If Pac gets slept, what will be his next move ?

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                    • #70
                      If Pac wins, May is coming out of retirement

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