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  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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    #61
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    no no no no no no no.... p4p is not like winning a divisional title. cotto stans need to understand this. you cotto stans are making the exact same mistake hatton stans made.


    true


    nah, they will fall in the rankings but not off the top 10
    Nope we are not, cuz we aint saying Cotto will be #1 just for beating Pacquiao.

    What we are saying is this, if Manny wins he stays at #1, if Manny wins and Floyd wins Manny stays at #1 and Floyd jumps to #3

    If Manny wins and JMM wins they stay as they are.

    if Cotto wins and JMM wins then JMM jumps to #1 and Cotto to #2 and Pac to #3.

    If Cotto wins and Floyd Wins Cotto jumps to #1, FLoyd to #2, Pacquiao #3 and jmm to #4.

    Thats how **** should go!!!!!!!!!

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    • Pullcounter
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      #62
      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
      Why will you rank Mayweather over Cotto?
      cause floyd retired as p4p #1 and in his return defeated the #2 p4p.

      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
      No way. Cotto hops Hopkins and Mosley who have each done jack **** in almost a year, while Cotto would have beaten a top oppenent in Clottey, and the P4P #1, size difference or not.
      bhop: p4p ain't just about "what have you done for me lately".

      mosley: mosley destroyed margo who made cotto quit and mosley/cotto was a close fight which cotto won a decision in MSG, but might/would have had a different result in a different venue.

      It'll be interesting to see how people treat the Mayweather situation.

      I'd prob have it:

      1. Floyd
      2. Cotto
      3. Pac
      4.JMM
      that's cool, but you have cotto way to high, plus you bumped off bhop and don't give enough credit to mosley for destroying the man you made cotto quit.

      Originally posted by handwraps
      I dont think mayweather would deserve the top spot.
      why not? floyd retired p4p #1 and he would've beaten p4p #2

      And dont see why anyone would not advance cotto.
      of course he will advance.... just not in the top 3.

      Based on opponents fought. And i would still have jmm at the least top 5.
      as long as he's behind pac.

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      • Ch@mpBox@PR
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        #63
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        cause floyd retired as p4p #1 and in his return defeated the #2 p4p.



        bhop: p4p ain't just about "what have you done for me lately".

        mosley: mosley destroyed margo who made cotto quit and mosley/cotto was a close fight which cotto won a decision in MSG, but might/would have had a different result in a different venue.


        that's cool, but you have cotto way to high, plus you bumped off bhop and don't give enough credit to mosley for destroying the man you made cotto quit.


        why not? floyd retired p4p #1 and he would've beaten p4p #2


        of course he will advance.... just not in the top 3.


        as long as he's behind pac.
        1.Exactly he retire he gave up his position. He needs to earn it like everybody else now.

        2.B-Hop is 3-3 and his last 6 fights, plus he hasnt fought in a year. Cotto Mosley was clear as water 8-4 Cotto, didnt matter if it was in the moon the better fighter got the descicion. Anything else would of been a robbery.

        3.Mosley beat Margarito, but hasnt fought in almost a year, plus since 2007, Cotto defeated Mosley, Lost to Margarito and Defeated Clottey. Mosley lost to Cotto beat Margarito and almost lost to Mayorga.

        Cotto>>>>>>>Mosley, head to head as a WW and P4P wise too.

        4.Again he gave up his position.

        5.Yes he will!!!!!!!

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        • Pullcounter
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          #64
          Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
          Nope we are not, cuz we aint saying Cotto will be #1 just for beating Pacquiao.
          c'mon... hatton has accomplished as much if not more than cotto has.

          What we are saying is this, if Manny wins he stays at #1, if Manny wins and Floyd wins Manny stays at #1 and Floyd jumps to #3
          nah...

          1) pac / floyd (winner of this fight is #1)
          2) jmm
          3) bhop
          4) mosley

          If Manny wins and JMM wins they stay as they are.
          true

          if Cotto wins and JMM wins then JMM jumps to #1 and Cotto to #2 and Pac to #3.
          nah...

          1) jmm
          2) bhop
          3) mosley
          4) cotto
          5) pbf
          6) pac

          If Cotto wins and Floyd Wins Cotto jumps to #1, FLoyd to #2, Pacquiao #3 and jmm to #4.

          Thats how **** should go!!!!!!!!!
          nope.

          1) floyd
          2) bhop
          3) mosley
          4) cotto
          5) pac
          6) jmm

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            #65
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            c'mon... hatton has accomplished as much if not more than cotto has.


            nah...

            1) pac / floyd (winner of this fight is #1)
            2) jmm
            3) bhop
            4) mosley


            true



            nah...

            1) jmm
            2) bhop
            3) mosley
            4) cotto
            5) pbf
            6) pac



            nope.

            1) floyd
            2) bhop
            3) mosley
            4) cotto
            5) pac
            6) jmm
            If it isn't only about "what have you done for me lately" than Cotto has a head to head win over Mosley.

            But I digress...either way, inactivity hurts your P4P status. Notice how once it came up on a year both Vazquez and Marquez were dropped off of most P4P lists?

            Hopkins doesn't even have a concrete fight in sight. I aint trying to put Cotto in the same league as Hopkins, I'm just saying his inactivity is gonna cause him to drop when other guys are fighting in huge mega fights.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #66
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              1.Exactly he retire he gave up his position. He needs to earn it like everybody else now.
              p4p ain't like winning a divisional title. you don't have to start at the bottom and work your way back to the top. floyd retired on top, so with a win against jmm, he will be tied w/ pac for #1.

              2.B-Hop is 3-3 and his last 6 fights,
              yeah, but bhop was never beat down and forced to quit by a slow face-first unskilled brawler like margo.

              plus he hasnt fought in a year.
              doesn't matter, he was in negotiations that failed.

              Cotto Mosley was clear as water 8-4 Cotto,
              nope, it wasn't a clear victory.

              didnt matter if it was in the moon the better fighter got the descicion.
              cotto got the decision in MSG... someplace else, the verdict might've been different.

              Anything else would of been a robbery.
              lol... funny; everyone knows you can't decision cotto in MSG.

              3.Mosley beat Margarito, but hasnt fought in almost a year, plus since 2007,
              doesn't matter, he destroyed the guy that made cotto quit.

              Cotto defeated Mosley,
              nope... he got a decision in MSG... anywhere else and the result might be different.

              Lost to Margarito and Defeated Clottey.
              nope... he quit against margo and got ANOTHER decision against clottey (one that imho he deserved, but many others dispute)

              Mosley lost to Cotto
              nope, mosley couldn't / can't / will never get the decision over cotto in MSG.

              beat Margarito
              he didn't just beat, he KTFO margo

              and almost lost to Mayorga.
              mosley KTFO mayorga.

              Cotto>>>>>>>Mosley,
              sorry, but you're wrong.

              head to head as a WW and P4P wise too.
              false.

              4.Again he gave up his position.
              doesn't matter, p4p don't work like weight divisions.

              5.Yes he will!!!!!!!
              nope

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              • Pullcounter
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                #67
                Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                If it isn't only about "what have you done for me lately" than Cotto has a head to head win over Mosley.
                well.... mosley KTFO margo who has victories over both cotto and clottey, so based on that criteria, mosley is still ahead of cotto as that is the most recent thing he has done lately.

                But I digress...either way, inactivity hurts your P4P status. Notice how once it came up on a year both Vazquez and Marquez were dropped off of most P4P lists?
                those 2 were injured. bhop and mosley were/are not. in a sense, you could say it was a form or racism that vasquez and marquez were dropped, but i digress, that is a discussion for another thread.


                Hopkins doesn't even have a concrete fight in sight.
                doesn't matter, he tried to negotiate for a fight that fell through.

                I aint trying to put Cotto in the same league as Hopkins
                cotto is in the same league, just not ranked above bhop just yet.

                , I'm just saying his inactivity is gonna cause him to drop when other guys are fighting in huge mega fights.
                as long as bhop is negotiating for fights he stays. cotto will overtake bhop if he beats pac and another top 5 p4per... either mosley or the winner of pbf/jmm.

                sorry cotto stans...
                Last edited by Pullcounter; 09-01-2009, 12:23 PM.

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