Floyd is fighting a YouTuber while Pacquaio is fighting a p4p king

[IceTrayDaGang]

I don't agree that Pac is already greater. Floyds win over Canelo is like Amazon stock from 1995...rich af

difference is... floyd fought canelo when nelo was still young... while pac is fighting a prime spence not a green spence.

now if floyd came back out and beat this current version of canelo, then yes, he's better than manny.

[The Big Dunn]

Think TS is just reiterating once again Pac daring to be great. Floyd ducking the young Li ons when Floyd was a relatively young lion himself

Frame it however you need. Floyd is retired. To equate that with ducking young lions is just bitterness that he beat Manny.

[The Big Dunn]

Correct. Manny beating Spence ranks Manny atop Floyd in ATG though

No it doesn’t. Only when it’s Floyd do we make these kind of criteria. Floyd’s career is over and done. Nothing that happens after, especially if he isn’t involved, has any impact in his standing .

[Robbie Barrett]

difference is... floyd fought canelo when nelo was still young... while pac is fighting a prime spence not a green spence.

now if floyd came back out and beat this current version of canelo, then yes, he's better than manny.

Whatever Manny does won't erase that loss. Canelo is already an HOF fighter, one of many on Floyd's resume. If Spence gets to that level you can have that discussion.

[Roadblock]

1 and 3 are true, 2 is debatable, 4 is laughably false.

Floyd vs. Paul is shaping up to be a massive flop. The fight already got cancelled once. Floyd filed a lawsuit because they couldn't guarantee him the money once they saw the projections were going far lower than they thought.

4 is not false you will see, Floyd doesn't step out without a minimum guaranteed figure jumping into his account .

2 is not debatable Spence hasn't done anything to match Cotto Canelo Manny Mosley Oscar, Spence is like an Ike Quartey, talented and unbeaten but not proven at super-fight level.

[#1PaperChamp]

No he won't. PERIOD. All it does is show Spence isn't as good as Floyd. PERIOD and Pacquiao wasn't either. PERIOD.

Respectfully disagree, bro. Spence is definitively NOT as good as Floyd. There likely isn't a pathway for Spence to EVER achieve ATG status. He's 30 years old and still in his 1st weight class and has spent years not fighting Crawford, consensus Top 3 PFP past 3-4 years, and arguably lost to Porter (even with his 100+ low blows).

Manny lost to Floyd head-to-head and believe me Floyd is a tough out for ANY fighter in HISTORY from 130-147. However, Manny beating Thurman and Spence at 40 and 42 years would be remarkable. Both opponents undefeated at time of fight and, while both are shells of former self and kind of never "proven", they both passed the eye test for at least being solid. And any 40-42 year old faded champ beating solid champions is impressive especially given all their weight class jumps.

Floyd was an amazing fighter, no doubt, but like Bernard Hopkins Manny's longevity is thoroughly impressive.

[BrometheusBob.]

Correct. Manny beating Spence ranks Manny atop Floyd in ATG though

I certainly understand why people would say this but idk. It's hard to top wins over Canelo and Pacquiao lol. The man literally beat the only two other serious contenders for fighter of the last decade.

But it is wild of him to reach this high and winning would be a very big achievement. Regardless of where it puts him all time though I really would like to see him do it.

[pasawayako]

come on man leave floyd alone he's irrelevant in boxing now and he's only on the level of youtubers and mma boxer anymore.

[#1PaperChamp]

No it doesn’t. Only when it’s Floyd do we make these kind of criteria. Floyd’s career is over and done. Nothing that happens after, especially if he isn’t involved, has any impact in his standing .

So if another fighter comes along and goes 100-0 and defeats 1 champion in every weight class (all 17 weight classes) over his career...that doesn't impact ATG standings? Yes, it does...otherwise Floyd could never be an ATG because SRR, SRL, Duran, Hagler, Ali, etc. they all retired well before Floyd and they're all ATG

[Combat Talk Radio]

There’s no excuses for floyd not to fight the likes of errol Spence when pacquaio is doing it. Floyd straight up ducking, and instead fighting youtubers who haven’t even won a fight.

Pacquaio is putting Floyd to shame.

Floyd will bank $100 million per Paul brother without half sweating.

Manny will bank $20 million and get SERIOUSLY HURT.


Come on people. You know what you would choose.