Wilder is over, if Fury beats him again

[JakeTheBoxer]

He will not come back from 2 losses back to back.

If I was Wilder, i would fight Martin and Whyte in 2021, get some self confidence back, beat them and force Joshua -Fury winner to fight me in 2022.

Or maybe Wilder feels he is done anyway and wants just to cash out and retire.

[billeau2]

He will not come back from 2 losses back to back.

If I was Wilder, i would fight Martin and Whyte in 2021, get some self confidence back, beat them and force Joshua -Fury winner to fight me in 2022.

Or maybe Wilder feels he is done anyway and wants just to cash out and retire.

You have to look historically, psychlogically and even strategically (game theory) to understand why you might be premature in your assesment Jake. First, historically, even in the days when a puncher had those 3 extra championship rounds to catch a guy, the boxer usually wins. The logic in a boxing match in inverse at the top level from the bottom: For most of us the threat of a guy like Kimbo slice is much more real, than a guy like Mayweather. A puncher just needs to land once! But at the professional level, guys have an easier time preventing the puncher than the boxer... the more realized fear is a guy like Left Hook Lacy being taken apart by Calzaghe. and this holds true in many combat endevours. Bill Superfoot Wallace was undefeated as a kickboxing champ. This was because nobody could get past his left leg.

Psychologically Wilder does not need to concern himself with losing rounds, with engaging a boxer at the finer points of trading punches. He only has to establish himself as a threat and find a way to create the opportunity to unload one good shot. Perfect example would be the second Ortiz fight for Wilder.

This ties into the third aspect. Deontay is, like Haye, another punching phenomena, an ambush fighter. He stays far away, across the ring, until he attacks, and with his reach he can do so from virtually any part of the ring. Wilder because of his punch will always be an exciting opponent to fight, and will age very well. I actually don't think Wilder has to worry about losing fights. Everyone likes to beat a puncher. guys will see him losing a step, and suddenly become beatable against that big punch, and this wll be a feather in their cap. This logic applies to boxer punchers like Sanders, and Chisora... why does Derrick always seem to get fights? For an example of the opposite consider a fighter like Chris Byrd, or Herbie Hyde. Guys that can really make you look bad.

[hugh grant]

I just feel that fury gets little credit for winning again. But say wilder beats whyte or usyk first, well then wilder actually is quite good

[tritium_arma]

He can rebuild by going on a 10 KO tomato can streak like before.