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  • davefromvancouv
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    #121
    Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
    omg - u just didnt compare Ali’s 10 title defenses to Wilder’s pathetic defenses against tomato cans which included names like Molina, Spilka, Duhaupas, AJ ko victim Breazele, Washington, a fat washed up Stiverne and geriatric overrated Cuban senior citizen(best legit opponent in his entire protected weak azz career)...thats pathetic and outright embarrassing!! Easy to have the highest ko ratio when ur record is filled with bum after bum!!no great feat in that.
    Ortiz overrated? Or avoided? Ortiz was supposed to fight Joshua 4 years ago, but was sidestepped for Klitschko, then bypassed for Pulev (who pulled out) then Takam. Whyte still refuses to fight Ortiz and Fury said that Ortiz is high risk for little reward. Wilder fought him twice...

    Compare what Wilder did to Breazeale to what Joshua did. No comparison...

    Klitschko tried to do the exact same thing Fury JUST tried to do to avoid Wilder: pay him step aside money to fight Stiverne for undisputed. Wilder said no, fight me when I beat Stiverne. Klitschko fought Fury instead and lost.

    Wilder saw how Fury successfully avoided the Klitschko rematch (Klitschko probably would have beat Fury) and said nah, honor the contract!

    Wilder-Fury 3 is set for July 24th. Fury is going to get smoked!

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    • IRONCHINHAGLER
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      #122
      Originally posted by davefromvancouv

      Ortiz overrated? Or avoided? Ortiz was supposed to fight Joshua 4 years ago, but was sidestepped for Klitschko, then bypassed for Pulev (who pulled out) then Takam. Whyte still refuses to fight Ortiz and Fury said that Ortiz is high risk for little reward. Wilder fought him twice...

      Compare what Wilder did to Breazeale to what Joshua did. No comparison...

      Klitschko tried to do the exact same thing Fury JUST tried to do to avoid Wilder: pay him step aside money to fight Stiverne for undisputed. Wilder said no, fight me when I beat Stiverne. Klitschko fought Fury instead and lost.

      Wilder saw how Fury successfully avoided the Klitschko rematch (Klitschko probably would have beat Fury) and said nah, honor the contract!

      Wilder-Fury 3 is set for July 24th. Fury is going to get smoked!
      Lmao!! A fighter(Fury) fights another fighter(Wilder) twice and beats him twice in the eyes of MOST boxing insider/media and now that fighter is “avoiding” another fight with the same fighter he just manhandled and beatdown? Nice logic Bro ...really makes alot of sense!

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        #123
        Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
        Lmao!! A fighter(Fury) fights another fighter(Wilder) twice and beats him twice in the eyes of MOST boxing insider/media and now that fighter is “avoiding” another fight with the same fighter he just manhandled and beatdown? Nice logic Bro ...really makes alot of sense!
        Where have you been for the last year?
        What have we been enduring since June 2020?
        Fury avoiding the Wilder rematch!!
        And Fury being told no, honor the contract.
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        • IRONCHINHAGLER
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          #124
          Originally posted by davefromvancouv

          Where have you been for the last year?
          What have we been enduring since June 2020?
          Fury avoiding the Wilder rematch!!
          And Fury being told no, honor the contract.
          ​​​​​
          u ever heard of Wilders injury and covid-19...neither side wanted to have the 3rd fight without the live gate $. Still living the fantasy!

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            #125
            Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
            u ever heard of Wilders injury and covid-19...neither side wanted to have the 3rd fight without the live gate $. Still living the fantasy!
            Yup, I heard about it...

            Wilder was injured after the fight.
            Triggered the rematch clause a week later.
            Fight moved from July to October.
            Fury announced undisputed fight agreed to terms in June.
            Arun moved rematch from October to December.
            ESPN moved rematch from December to February.
            Arum said the contract was expired.
            Fury said he'd never fight Wilder.
            Wilder initiated mediation which led to arbitration.
            Fury announced undisputed fight ready to go on Sunday.
            Arbitrator said nah, honor the contract, on Monday.

            Wilder-Fury 3 July 24.
            Fury tried to avoid it but couldn't.

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            • IRONCHINHAGLER
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              #126
              Originally posted by davefromvancouv

              Yup, I heard about it...

              Wilder was injured after the fight.
              Triggered the rematch clause a week later.
              Fight moved from July to October.
              Fury announced undisputed fight agreed to terms in June.
              Arun moved rematch from October to December.
              ESPN moved rematch from December to February.
              Arum said the contract was expired.
              Fury said he'd never fight Wilder.
              Wilder initiated mediation which led to arbitration.
              Fury announced undisputed fight ready to go on Sunday.
              Arbitrator said nah, honor the contract, on Monday.

              Wilder-Fury 3 July 24.
              Fury tried to avoid it but couldn't.
              u make it out to b wats it not...Fury wanted the bigger fight for bigger $ the fans wanted with Aj....He not a avoiding Wilder himself...done whipped him twice. Would make no sense.

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                #127
                Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
                u make it out to b wats it not...Fury wanted the bigger fight for bigger $ the fans wanted with Aj....He not a avoiding Wilder himself...done whipped him twice. Would make no sense.
                Makes no sense to do what he did, unless he believes he can't do it again...

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
                  Lmao!! A fighter(Fury) fights another fighter(Wilder) twice and beats him twice in the eyes of MOST boxing insider/media and now that fighter is “avoiding” another fight with the same fighter he just manhandled and beatdown? Nice logic Bro ...really makes alot of sense!
                  For whatever reason he absolutely avoided the trilogy. You've heard all the news - a judge has ordered him to fight Wilder or get sued.

                  Fury and Wilder have now spent 15 months out of the ring over this. You can blame the pandemic but others have managed to fight.

                  If Fury had fought at the end of 2020, then he would have lost some money at the gate but would be comfortably making that back by having an undisputed fight in August.

                  As it is he's:
                  • Inactive as a boxer for 15 months
                  • Hasn't earned in 15 months
                  • Still only has the lower interest fight ahead of him
                  • May never get the big money fight he was close to
                  In the meantime his rival got out in December and handled a mandatory.

                  It's not been a smart move by Team Fury. In fact it's been so bad that maybe Fury sues his promoters?

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                  • IRONCHINHAGLER
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Toffee

                    For whatever reason he absolutely avoided the trilogy. You've heard all the news - a judge has ordered him to fight Wilder or get sued.

                    Fury and Wilder have now spent 15 months out of the ring over this. You can blame the pandemic but others have managed to fight.

                    If Fury had fought at the end of 2020, then he would have lost some money at the gate but would be comfortably making that back by having an undisputed fight in August.

                    As it is he's:
                    • Inactive as a boxer for 15 months
                    • Hasn't earned in 15 months
                    • Still only has the lower interest fight ahead of him
                    • May never get the big money fight he was close to
                    In the meantime his rival got out in December and handled a mandatory.

                    It's not been a smart move by Team Fury. In fact it's been so bad that maybe Fury sues his promoters?
                    So the same goes for Wilder...hes the one who got injured, went into seclusion, fired his trainer...he delayed the fight as well. Cant blame Fury for going after the biggest fight and $ out there in fight with AJ. Obviously Arum/Top Rank thought they had a good case in the contract expiring or they would have not agreed to arbitration. All that had nothing to do with Fury.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER
                      So the same goes for Wilder...hes the one who got injured, went into seclusion, fired his trainer...he delayed the fight as well. Cant blame Fury for going after the biggest fight and $ out there in fight with AJ. Obviously Arum/Top Rank thought they had a good case in the contract expiring or they would have not agreed to arbitration. All that had nothing to do with Fury.
                      Wilder has lost 15 months too. The difference being that the fight he lost was a comeback against some no hoper. Ultimately he's got his rematch - the biggest fight he could possibly hope for and will likely get a gate also.

                      Joshua didn't get his undisputed fight but he's the only one of the three still active.

                      The decisions left Fury completely inactive. Which is why I'm struggling with the idea that anyone but Fury lost out here. Albeit, he had a guaranteed big fight off the back of the arbitration ruling regardless of the outcome. But he had those fights available to him anyway - he had two contracts in front of him (one already signed!).

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